Science & Industry

I didn't really know where to put this thread, so I looked for the channel that had the most amount of PI related threads. Granted every PI thread in here is carebear tears but whatev.

OK so last night while running havens in null our corp was reminiscing on comms about all of the good times we have had in eve. And we came to the conclusion that all of our good times were screwing around in lowsec. And we always had a blast living there. But the one thing that always killed it was isk, running around in lowsec ruins your sec status so no level 4 missions. We'd move to lowsec in T2 and faction ships and go roaming, a week later everyone is in drakes and canes, two weeks later we are roaming in vexors and ruptures, and by the end of the month everyone was broke and inactive. Then we'd need to move back to null.

Then as Crucible was comming out we were reading about the new Player Owned Customs Offices (I'll call them POCOs from here on out) and the raise in highsec taxes. And we were thinking that if we took over a few planets we could get everyone enough money to keep them in drakes and canes indefinitely.

The plan is to set up a few rare lowsec planets up 1 jump out of highsec. We'd set the reinforcement timers to come out during our peak hours. And we'd set the taxes free for ourselves, 5% to any blues, and 7.5% for everyone else trying to ninja PI in our space. All our individual members would make money off of tax free PI. And the corp would make cash from the taxes.

I'd like to know if anyone has tried setting up shop and doing PI in lowsec? Don't post here about your ill informed market speculation or the usual "lowsec is scary, too many goons in titans" gibberish, I want to know if you have ACTUALLY tried doing this and it ACTUALLY works.

With the prices of PI going up how much money can someone make doing PI in lowsec for free?

How much in taxes do you rake in from people doing ninja PI?

how often have your POCOs been put into reinforce? And have you ever gotten rolled over by a blob with a bazillion supers?

Also Carebears. If someone gave you blue status would you fly 1 jump into lowsec to do PI if the taxes were half as much (5%) And there were a few of us in local to keep your hauler safe?

Yes, I'd consider having my alt group negotiate (this char normally will not do PI for the sake of OpSec), but would request being left alone - they can fend for themselves relatively well (player experience/paranoia as an adjunct to character skills and not caring about lossmails on the alts).

As for location, I think you'd get better business if your 'border' systems were 0.3 or 0.2.

Edit - Also, as it appears you've not posted with a Main, don't bother contacting this char. I'm currently not interested in doing it right now, but if the need arises I'll do my normal research - which may include talking with the locals as you infer.

Up until Crucible, my main did all his extractions and processing into P1 and P2 in a low sec island. 0.4 security. Mitigated potential losses by scouting in a frigate/shuttle for organized gate camps and fitting 2x warp stab on my well tanked iteron5 to dodge the occasional solo hunter. Never lost any ships, but the potential was there.

Using 12H, 24H and sometimes 2 day extractions I was able to keep 3 basic processors feeding 2 advanced processors on most of my planets with a little help from importing cheaper materials.

Thats 240 P2 a day per planet assuming I stay on the ball with my extractions and imports. Between 1m and 2m isk/day/planet with the old prices.

Since higher taxes are going to push prices higher, the potential profits will be a fair bit higher if you can dodge the taxes.

I hear they have agents in lowsec too. Level 4 and 5 even!
Other than that: Lowsec PI is pretty profitable for a mostly passive activity. Taxes should rake in quite a sum too if you get enough people interested. The lower the truesec the better the planets.
We have our POCOs reinforced already by our neighbours. Looking forward to a nice fight :-)

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Anyway, the end result I got and am too lazy to post again - about 4 mil per day per planet in w-space, presumably a little less in low-sec. Don't over farm. Offer a 'scouting' service into the system to justify a little higher taxes - this might be a huge selling point.

Do my PI in lowsec would be nice if someone put up a poco....and I dont have to worry about getting chased or camped all over the place.

Now that it's been a week we are starting to see PCO' slowly going up in low . However the tax rate being set is ususally 10% the same as high security. So there is little or no incentive for high sec dwellers to travel to low except for the slightly higher yields.

Now you can find some low sec PCO's with with lower tax rates or even '0' by some groups like Starfucktion but those are just traps to get kills of unarmed transport ship.