EVE General Discussion

Won't this in same way start a myriad of new wars? I see this as CCP's way of opening up nullsec to everyone including new players like myself in order that they might get rarer ore they can't find elsewhere. Perhaps it wasn't their intent to start new conflicts, or perhaps it most certainly was their intent because that is the nature of EVE. I will honestly and carelessly traverse into nullsec to get ore because frankly it is hard to find in highsec and frankly I don't mind loosing a few ships to do so. I am sure there are plenty of others who have the motivation of doing so to build ships for their corp and/or for other reasons as well.

Yet, people put up warp bubbles to keep others out, when those bubbles no longer work as intended and their space is being mined hardcore right under their noses one has to ask a question. Do they care? If they do, then how are they going to go about dealing with this new band of covert mining ops? I mean isn't holding these sites important to each and everyone of the alliances that control them?

Perhaps I am just too new to the game and don't understand the vast mechanics of how things work. Maybe big alliances hardly care at all if some players wonder in their space and grab a little ore here and there.

Bubble proof or not, they'll still be cloaked and can move out of them, and with a large group and 1 prowler to haul the ore it might be worth it.

I for one am not worried about a highsec raid of nullsec mining sites, because that would involve leaving highsec.. and that's just something that highsec isn't willing to do.



They'll jump into lowsec, see another person in local and burn back to gate and jump back.

Wow they really do that O.O? **** I've been in Goon territory and saying o/ to them in chat at times. I even had one hunt me down while I managed to somehow get away and cloak. Then proceeded to mine yet again as he seemed to loose interest and jumped away.


EDIT: Had no idea people were already using a Prowler to jump procurers :D That sounds fun lol!

Welcome to the game :)

Alliances rely on income of hundred of farmers, so each individual farmer may take his/her pitchfork to get you out of their mining field if they are so inclined, and logged on at the same time as you are, and able to/willing to risk chasing you off (after all you could simply be a bait).... They would have some reasons to do so because they pay a rent/tax to the alliance so it is what they see as their individual "property" that you threaten.

Alliances per se would not lift a finger. Like a cow that ignores a mosquito buzzing around to feed from its blood, the alliiance would only start to react (ponderously) if there are too many mosquitoes around her.
But alliances' strategy is to lobby upfront to CCP to make sure mosquitoes can't take that much blood anyway, so even a non trivial number of them around would not do much..

Nullsec needs more adventurous risk takers anyways. Carry on Prospect pilots.

The ore out here isn't worth my time to mine--and I've got the option of doing it with mining barges while docking in-system and shipping via a JF service.

I can't imagine there will be many people mining it slowly via cloaky frigates, or that I would care if there were.

and this is the most right thing in general

Blop Training: Check
Prospecters: Check
Covert Fleet: Check..

Now where is that mercoxit belt I want to mine..

They're not, and they won't be. You'll see a few comedy fleets/killmails like that 90 venture fleet that took out a nestor on April Fool's Day this year, though.