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Killstealing

Brutor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 510

#21 - 2011-12-03 01:51:01 UTC

Hidden Snake wrote:

Lady Spank wrote:

Jude Lloyd wrote:

Frigates.

and destroyers.

Yes .... and maybe no ... have to try it, but dessies are still very slow .... my nado is faster then my thrasher .... so if we do not consider some mixed gang with ewar setups I would be very careful. But will try it tonight with my corp buddy if he can melt me.

dessies have like 50m sig now though, good luck hitting that with a rack of 1400s

Daniel L'Siata

Phoenix Naval Operations

Phoenix Naval Systems

Likes received: 245

#22 - 2011-12-05 08:06:10 UTC

A handful of Frigates of any variety will straight up obliterate the new Tier 3's.

Hell, a friend killed an Oracle and a Tornado 2v1 in an Ishkur. No utility highs, poor tracking and paper tanks make Frigates (Or anything that can transversal tank well) ideal for taking them out.

If you have the cash and skills, I know from personal experience that 100MN Legions and Tengus absolutely smash Ti3's.

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whaynethepain Likes received: 70	#23 - 2011-12-05 08:11:39 UTC Anything that can speed tank large turrets. The tier 3's make excellent sniper ships. Getting you on your feet. So you've further to fall.

Space Wizards. Tactical Narcotics Team 68
ZANE VOIDSTALKER Space Wizards. Tactical Narcotics Team Likes received: 68	#24 - 2011-12-06 12:10:13 UTC man the new bc are soft as hell grab them with a dualweb loki and let a mega or similar bs eat them alive wont take much. and we had a dram catch nano tornado when i landed within 45 sec of engagment dram had tornado at half shields lol tier3 pffff like tier -3

Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 223
Garr Earthbender Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire Likes received: 223	#25 - 2011-12-06 21:26:55 UTC Yeah I have a feeling that a Ceptor w/scram will be what wins the day against theses things. -Scissors is overpowered, rock is fine. -Paper

Fat Dragon Mining Co. Darwinism. 63
Sul Glass Fat Dragon Mining Co. Darwinism. Likes received: 63	#26 - 2011-12-06 22:47:12 UTC Tasiv Deka wrote: .......... or something fast and small My missus says I have the very thing ........... Sul

GavinGoodrich

Perkone

Caldari State

Likes received: 117

#27 - 2011-12-06 23:17:44 UTC

Kiting fleet, he said. Not a single tier 3.

A single frig vs. an entire fleet of kiting ships...good luck. Scram one, the other 10+ alpha you from range. Pray to god your fast tackle know how to get to 'em without dying.

These ships are designed to kite, kill tackle, continue kiting, warp off.

Arazu/Lach/Huginn/Rapier with the right rep support is an effective counter. Having your entire fleet fit for medium range is helpful.

Bombs? This is a kite fleet. Make sure you know which way they will burn (sun, straight up, straight down, outbound gate, etc) and line said bombers up to fire into where they go. Keep in mind you probably won't hit them all. Leading a target with a 10 second flight time is tricky, at best

Lots of logis.

Sensor damps on utility mids for every available ship. Range is their only tank. Damps will be amongst the biggest counter amongst the grunts in the fleet. Fleets with armor logi can use arazus with nothing but damps...and take out 4-6 tier 3's quite easily. Would need other tackle recons W/logis for tackle.

Warp-ins. (behind the targets, usually. so the fleet can be warping

Proper placement of bubbling ships at the right moment.

Spies. (sigh)

Haaaaaalp my head's on fire

Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't Pandemic Legion 317
Silence iKillYouu Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't Pandemic Legion Likes received: 317	#28 - 2011-12-15 10:08:02 UTC AHAX EVE Mail me i dont check forums often.

Shakor Freight and Mining Service 5
youthink Shakor Freight and Mining Service Likes received: 5	#29 - 2011-12-15 10:54:55 UTC You all fail to realize that the new Tier 3 battlecruisers are, in fact, the long overdue buff for Electronic Attack Ships.

The Scope Gallente Federation 165
kyrieee The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 165	#30 - 2011-12-15 17:45:06 UTC Silence iKillYouu wrote: AHAX Good job suggesting the worst possible fleet you could field against them

Dos Pollos Hermanos 58
Nor Tzestu Dos Pollos Hermanos Likes received: 58	#31 - 2011-12-15 20:59:22 UTC Assault frigs. A pile of them.

madmen of the skies 3,613
Bienator II madmen of the skies Likes received: 3,613	#32 - 2011-12-17 03:11:04 UTC basically anything but keep your capital ships at home how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Section D 2
Vodka Cake Section D Likes received: 2	#33 - 2011-12-19 16:29:15 UTC Frigates. Think of their tracking, they usually come to bash large structures.

Tau Cabalander

Retirement Retreat

Working Stiffs

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#34 - 2011-12-20 19:45:07 UTC

Hirana Yoshida wrote:

Now if only CCP gave us the option to detonate bombs without launching them, that is to suicide with AoE effect and introduced a T2 bomb launcher with enough capacity to carry three (for even more AoE suicide fun).

KAMIKAZE!

Don't move when you launch the bomb. Without a ship velocity vector the bomb just sits next to your bomber then detonates.

Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1,622
Soldarius Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore Likes received: 1,622	#35 - 2011-12-21 09:03:36 UTC Haven't tried it yet. But I would expect AFs and bombers to be pretty good at killing tier 3s. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Spartan Industries 1
Bussta Gonad Spartan Industries Likes received: 1	#36 - 2011-12-22 05:25:34 UTC The natural predator of the Tier3 fleet is......da bomber http://gryphon.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11955544