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Star Citizen vs Eve Online...The Movie

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Doreen Kaundur
#1 - 2014-06-05 19:35:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Doreen Kaundur
Well, maybe not a "movie" but a commentary I found on youtube.

I agree with some points but not with all. In short, I really don't think EVE has anything to worry about with SC.



PS. I don't believe "the Eve community is resistant to change without there being major backlash." If anything, the EVE community is resistant to BAD "change" (*cough* Incarna *cough*).

We all still want WIS...but not a half assed job rushed out the door just to meet a deadline. Then telling us that staring at a static door instead of your ship's hangar is a good thing, while devs sing the "greed is good" theme song.

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Dark Assassin15
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-06-05 19:39:13 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
Well, maybe not a "movie" but a commentary I found on youtube.

I agree with some points not not with all. In short, I really don't think EVE has anything to worry about with SC.



PS. I don't believe the Eve community is resistant to "change" without there being major backlash. If anything, the EVE community is resistant to BAD "change" (*cough* Incarna *cough*).

We all still want WIS...but not a half assed job rushed out the door just to meet a deadline. Then telling us that staring at a static door instead of your ship's hangar is a good thing, while devs sing the "greed is good" theme song.


*facepalm*

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#3 - 2014-06-05 19:48:22 UTC
Star Citizen looked OK ...

until "instanced"

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#4 - 2014-06-05 19:48:49 UTC
Its not a fair fight

For a start, EvE online exists

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Karen Avioras
The Raging Raccoons
#5 - 2014-06-05 19:49:11 UTC
Everything I have seen from star citizen is some guy walking around in a hangar then showing off a bed in a spaceship.
Doreen Kaundur
#6 - 2014-06-05 19:50:13 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Star Citizen looked OK ...

until "instanced"



^this

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7 - 2014-06-05 19:52:04 UTC
Is it ladies' night in this thread?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#8 - 2014-06-05 20:01:50 UTC
Don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against SC, in fact I think I pledged enough to get the hangar module and alpha access, but comparing EVE and SC is like asking which is better – sandwiches or fireworks?

Bacon makes us stronger
Komi Toran
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-06-05 20:02:15 UTC
Karen Avioras wrote:
Everything I have seen from star citizen is some guy walking around in a hangar then showing off a bed in a spaceship.

...and complaining that the bed looked too small, if it's the video I'm thinking of.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#10 - 2014-06-05 20:03:58 UTC
I checked out SC because of the hype, but 3 things made me go 'mm prolly not'

1) Instancing and multiple servers

One of the things that has kept me in eve is this very reason. I enjoy playing with people from all over the world, and if a friend wants to join I don't have to have this conversation 'Dude you need to join the jita server... no not amarr, jita... yea delete your char and remake it on jita.'

2) The economy

Eve's is player controlled with a few exceptions... SC's will be mostly npc controlled...

3) The pvp slider and the 'lack of loot' (I have been told this is changed)

The idea that I can avoid pvp by setting a slider to 0 sounds fun.. but also sounds boring as hell. One of the big things I love about eve is I can shoot anyone anywhere (though usually I get shot but whos fact checking?)

There are others but thouse were the big three

And now no longer an all 'girl' thread, yay!

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Idris Maelfa
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#11 - 2014-06-05 21:01:33 UTC
DaReaper wrote:


1) Instancing and multiple servers

One of the things that has kept me in eve is this very reason. I enjoy playing with people from all over the world, and if a friend wants to join I don't have to have this conversation 'Dude you need to join the jita server... no not amarr, jita... yea delete your char and remake it on jita.'
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Imagine meeting someone at the bar for the frst time and you talk about Eve and the things that you both have done and the things you have seen. Then you realise that you are on different servers and all then you can say is "Oh"

With the single shard you know that somewhere out there is the person you're talking to. In fact out there in New Eden I know that you're out there to get me.

And that is why Eve has grown and developed by the players. With the multi-shard games the players are more or less scripted along with new areas and new levels to keep them going. In Eve it's not the environment it's the other players. We've stil essentially have the same game as we had half a dozen years ago because we're not led through by noses to interact with new content.

It's not the game, it's the players in the game which makes Eve so appealing and unless any other firm can make an MMO which is as free format as Eve, one shard and allow such in-game bitterness to develop then no-one is going to get close.
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#12 - 2014-06-05 21:07:15 UTC
Usually I like EVE graphics above all, but SC's are more appealing - I can actually see the details. Since EVE has moved to ever darker models I can't see hardly anything in space. If it wasn't for the Overview periscope nothing would get done.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-06-05 22:06:25 UTC
The difference between the two is that EVE is real and SC is not. Everyone who bought into it got scammed.

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Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-06-05 22:19:57 UTC
I'm interested to see how star citizen turns out. It looks a lot more modern and probably has more potential than eve.

I love the concept of eve but it has been getting increasingly boring for me over the years. I don't know if CCP lack innovative and brilliant staff or just lack the money but i don't think they are doing a good enough job with eve.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Dominus Tempus
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2014-06-05 22:23:11 UTC
Star Citizen is a multi-year pyramid scheme under the guise of a perfect game.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#16 - 2014-06-05 22:26:24 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
The difference between the two is that EVE is real and SC is not. Everyone who bought into it got scammed.


We'll have to take your word on that, as I hear that SC has been developed in association with goonswarm.
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#17 - 2014-06-05 22:29:21 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
I checked out SC because of the hype, but 3 things made me go 'mm prolly not'

1) Instancing and multiple servers

One of the things that has kept me in eve is this very reason. I enjoy playing with people from all over the world, and if a friend wants to join I don't have to have this conversation 'Dude you need to join the jita server... no not amarr, jita... yea delete your char and remake it on jita.'



On the other hand, if you want to actually make a difference, you never have to worry about "timer is at 4:30 in the morning" ....yeah, good luck with that, I'm sleeping.

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#18 - 2014-06-05 22:43:32 UTC
Removed some inappropriate posts.

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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#19 - 2014-06-05 22:56:25 UTC
Two entirely different types of games. I don't even know why people want to compare them.
MajorBean
HandelsGilde-De
Outsmarted
#20 - 2014-06-05 23:02:33 UTC  |  Edited by: MajorBean
#Eveisdying2014

"We all still want WIS"







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