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Trading currency to other games, ie. VT

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Zad Murrard
Frozen Dawn Inc
Frozen Dawn Alliance
#1 - 2014-06-04 09:56:39 UTC
There was previously a topic about this, but there was no official answer, hopefully there would be one now :)
What I'm hoping for is an actual ISD / CCP answer, not some random rambling.

ISD members have posted and it's very clear thar RMT (real money trading) is forbidden.
What falls off as a grey area is trading ISK to some points/currency of other virtual game.

It could be especially fishy if the other games allows virtual currency to be traded back to money, but in most cases
this is not possible.

Is this kind of activity allowed or disallowed? Or does it 'depend'?
Aspalis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-06-04 10:40:54 UTC
I would guess it is not allowed. Not because I believe there is something that specifically says so in the EULA, but to avoid any potential drama involved with trading virtual currency between games.

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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#3 - 2014-06-04 11:21:52 UTC
Zad Murrard:

The following is an excerpt from the EVE Online Terms of Service:

Quote:
10. You may not market, sell, advertise, promote, solicit or otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of items in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.

11. The advertisement or sale of out of game goods and services not directly related to EVE online is prohibited. The only out of game goods and services which can be advertised or sold are the following: EVE forum signature creation, website and third party voice communication server hosting or EVE Time Codes.


The only interpretation I gather from these rules is that you cannot trade EVE assets for another game's assets.

Hope this helps and answers your question.

Cheers!

ISD Decoy

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Zad Murrard
Frozen Dawn Inc
Frozen Dawn Alliance
#4 - 2014-06-04 12:08:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Zad Murrard
ISD Decoy wrote:
Zad Murrard:

The following is an excerpt from the EVE Online Terms of Service:

Quote:
10. You may not market, sell, advertise, promote, solicit or otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of items in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.

11. The advertisement or sale of out of game goods and services not directly related to EVE online is prohibited. The only out of game goods and services which can be advertised or sold are the following: EVE forum signature creation, website and third party voice communication server hosting or EVE Time Codes.


Cheers!


Strictly reading

10. talks of items & services -> ISK is neither item nor service, it is in game currency. Selling currency is not forbidden by 10.
11. talks of selling out of game goods -> If someone here advertises to sell ISK, that someone is not selling out of game goods, thus does not fall into 11

Comments :) ?

Edit: Now someone might claim that selling ISK is a service, I guess it depends a bit on the wording of the potential ad. However it is directly related to eve online and therefore the start of 11 is not valid either.

Edit2: One could consider gdocs to be a form out out of game currency. Trading ISK to docs sheets happens a lot. Therefore it is a bit shady if trading ISK to sheets is allowed but other currencies are not allowed. One could argue that sheets help a player in eve online and therefore it's ok to sell them. However, one can with some minor alterations use the sheets sold also for other games. Therefore even though it may be directed at first just to eve online, there's some use also out of eve for those sheets.
CCP Falcon
#5 - 2014-06-04 12:39:15 UTC
This is not permitted under our EULA, and any attempts at doing this will result in action being taken against any involved game accounts.

TL;DR - Don't do it, it's bad, it's against the rules, and you'll get banned.

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