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1. Walk-in stations 2. Atmospheric fight.
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Vincintius Agrippa
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#1 - 2014-06-04 04:01:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincintius Agrippa
1. Currently we are only able to walk through our captains quarters, the last time I did so was close to a year ago. It is an interesting concept, but what if it could be expanded upon? 1 of the most difficult part I can see would be loading the interior from every station so that every player could see/walk around in it. Although now that I think about it a generic station environment could be used for everyone's client. Of course there would be racial variants.

Why? more interactivity. I'm not just talking about running around for the heck of it. I imagine more of a lobby or lounge type environment with different levels to accommodate a large station occupancy, especially for trade hubs, jits excluded as there are simply too many people there. A place where capsuleers can engage each other, discuss business deals make contract catch up and play games with friends. Make bets, or just sit at the bar and have a few pints of quafe.

2. That would be awesome and bring a new level of play and interactivity to eve. The tech is there [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pg1dzAvL2M[/url] and has been for almost ten years. Of course, there are thousands of planets in new Eden, but what problem(s) do you foresee in bringing this to large scale?

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Ray Kyonhe
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-06-04 05:37:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Ray Kyonhe
Despite I'm anticipating the day we can witness EVE expanding to the new boundaries marked by WiS, thats already start to become irritating. There are plenty of WiS whine topics, just use a search function.

1) It's useless untill we have solid, rich, diverse content for it, integrated into the current world. The original WiS actually failed mostly because it didn't offer anything aside some fancy stuff.
2) It's also mostly fancy stuff. Aside from sightseeing, what usefull gameplay could be attached to it? Just imagine we need to add relief data to every planet in EVE universe. Some climat/enviroment data too. It's pretty huge amount of data. Only for pretty picture you will only look at once? If there isn't some gameplay or social meaning in this (like in fancy clothes and accessories), it just not worth it, there are more important issues in the game.

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Xeator
soldiers.fi
#3 - 2014-06-04 06:40:02 UTC
I think the things listed by OP are some of the most commont requests for WIS. I dont know why they wouldnt be implemented.

I see those as parts of meaningful content already.

As for the atmospheric flight, I would love to see it as well. As for what it would bring in terms of content? Im sure CCP could come up with lots of uses for visiting planets. Move orbital strikes into low orbit? Some other exciting new incentives? Cant be that hard to come up with something. Besides, eye candy is always good.

I really want to see more WIS, but lately Ive been losing hope. I can only pray for Legion to bring in what I envisioned WIS to. Heres to hoping Legion will go ahead and see the light of day.
Ray Kyonhe
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-06-04 08:28:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Ray Kyonhe
Xeator wrote:

I really want to see more WIS, but lately Ive been losing hope. I can only pray for Legion to bring in what I envisioned WIS to. Heres to hoping Legion will go ahead and see the light of day.

Legion is a mmo shooter, cursed with a BF-like mechanics, I don't see how it can bring any good to EVE at all.
As for content already able to be deployed in WiS - name it. Aside from some pretty eye-candy minigames, I haven't heard of anything like this. I heard some great proposals, yes, I've already mentioned thrm in other threads - like assasinations and deal interventions on stations, ability to bid wide variety of ingame assets (even stations/claimed regions and your CEO rights, even your charater's life) in some game of cards, duels with mechanics other than spaceships battles. But those were only proposed on forum by players, and I didn't see them commented by devs or CSM.

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Dancing Sun
Lancer Dragoon
#5 - 2014-06-04 08:35:00 UTC
I probably want WiS/Incarna more than anyone else, but it's definitely on their back burner. It isn't likely to happen within the next five years. They WANT to do it, but they just haven't figured out a way.

I remember during CCP Presents at Fanfest 2013, Hilmar said it was on hold. He teased about possibly "opening" the door from captain's quarters while using the Oculus Rift. A lot has changed since then, and he made no mention of WiS at all during 2014 fanfest.
Vincintius Agrippa
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#6 - 2014-06-04 16:13:46 UTC
:( I'd really hate to have to wait 5 years to do anything other than ship spinning or flying around. It seems like my clone ass is getting sore
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zen zubon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-06-05 09:42:30 UTC
would have been nice if they took the WOD people they let go and had them finish the walking in stations stuff before firing them
ChironV
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-06-05 15:16:50 UTC
Only two places I would go in a walk in station.

1) Casino

2) Corporate Offices

Betting with ISK would add much to the velocity of money in Eve economy.
Ray Kyonhe
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-06-05 15:38:03 UTC
ChironV wrote:

Betting with ISK would add much to the velocity of money in Eve economy.

Imagine betting with your POS, or claimed region, or position as a CEO in corp, or biding life of your own charater to get a full perspective of what new fantastic layer of players' interations such casinos could bring to New Eden if integrated into the game's mechanics fully (not like present third-party obsure services)

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XxRTEKxX
256th Shadow Wing
Phantom-Recon
#10 - 2014-06-06 19:39:32 UTC  |  Edited by: XxRTEKxX
I doubt ccp will, any time soon, go back to working on WiS. I can almost guarantee that they definitely won't work on atmospheric flight anytime in the next few years.

Both are something I've hoped for since I started playing in 2010. I've also hoped for getting to fly a fighter in cockpit view. Looks like with Valkyrie I'll get to do that, only it wont be in EVE with everyone else. Will only be in a match style gameplay.

At least in Star Citizen I'll get to dogfight, board ships, walk in station, copilot ships with friends and eventually get to manually fly down to a planet's surface. Its everything Ive wanted to be in EVE. At least CCP is trying to get those elements into the EVE Universe in some way, I just wish they'd make more progress in actual integration.

If Im flying a fighter in Valkryie, I want to fly with friends in EVE who are flying big ships. Like if a carrier required players to pilot it's fighters. I dont see that level of immersion in EVE anywhere in the near future, but I do see that coming in Star Citizen.

Cockpit Simulation
Walking in stations
Boarding other ships, FPShooting combat inside and out of ships,
Multiplayer flight/control of one ship(navigation, flight, weapons etc)
Fuel
Atmospheric flight
Collision damage with other ships and objects

All these will be in Star Citizen in one game with other players. I want all those things in EVE, not in a separate version of EVE.
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-06-06 19:46:21 UTC
^ Last I checked on the status of Star Citizen, things weren't looking up.
Absinyth
Tranquility Lost
#12 - 2014-06-06 20:09:26 UTC
Dancing Sun wrote:
I probably want WiS/Incarna more than anyone else, but it's definitely on their back burner. It isn't likely to happen within the next five years. They WANT to do it, but they just haven't figured out a way.

I remember during CCP Presents at Fanfest 2013, Hilmar said it was on hold. He teased about possibly "opening" the door from captain's quarters while using the Oculus Rift. A lot has changed since then, and he made no mention of WiS at all during 2014 fanfest.


Just to throw out an idea, but why not put the WIS as part of a separate application that runs to get you from the Captain's Quarters into the station environment. Still have it linked to Eve as planned but then don't have to worry much about how it will interact with the code from the Eve Client and also not worry about how much of a load it will put on servers and the clients. WIS application can have it's own code, it's own structure, and more of it's own API. I would think the amount of code to work with to have the two applications communicate with the Eve servers is minimal in comparison of building the WIS into Eve itself. Then you could push updates only for WIS and won't have to worry how it will effect Eve Online.


Could easily make a loading screen that offers a seamless transition between the two applications (Eve-Online and WIS) when you walk through a door from your captain's quarters. Dust is linked to Eve so you know that is possible. Maybe even have a way to startup the separate application by itself which puts you in your captain's quarters without having to startup Eve first. Also, by having it linked to Eve interactions in the station could carry over to Eve itself which I think would be cool even though it could offer some negative implications.