EVE New Citizens Q&A

before the update, I was running security missions lvl II quite comfortably in my Kestrel. only certain missions with fat ships, industrials specifically, took me quite longer.
today I try my first mission after the update, same agent, and I am completely overwhelmed. number of ships is not the problem, as I have fought more before. although there are a bit more big red crosses. the worst thing is that I am getting target jammed by dire pthium nullifiers. I found some info on the web, and it says that its jamming strength is 3. kestrel apparently has a sensor strength of 11 and was jammed easily. I switched to caracal with sensor strength of 16 and put a conjunctive gravimetric eccm scanning array (with strength of 96% which I assume is by how much it increases sensor strength) and I was STILL jammed!
so my questions are:
1) did they make changes to guristas in this update to make them quite a bit harder? or did they increase missions difficulty?
2) if all is good and as before, how am I supposed to fight target jamming? fill all mid and low slots with sensor boosting equipment?

lol what marauder? I am a noob, this is my 3rd week. I had to look up what a marauder is - almost 2 months to train for it :(

You need to make friends _in_game_ not here on the forum. And it's more like a year to be able to fly a marauder. If two months are a problem for you a change of games might be at hand.

How did you infer that he doesn't have the patience for training? He's just saying that he wants to be able to kill Guristas right now without resorting to a T2 Battleship in level 1-2 missions, which is a reasonable thing to ask. Besides a T2 Battleship is freaking overkill and horribly slow for the long gate traversing in low level missions. Cheel, Winstawn!

QFT. This is New Citizens Q&A not GD.

To OP: As stated earlier, auto targeting missiles are your friend against Guristas. Or alternatively, learn which ships jam and pick off the jamming ships as soon as you enter the mission pocket (learn to do this).

Drones can also be helpful if you drop them before you're jammed, however some missions you will need to watch for an aggro switch and hope you don't get them blapped.



In regards to jamming strengths, all jams are based on a percentage, I'm not too sure how it works but it's to do with the whole you senser strength and their jam strength and then they have a percentage of whether the jams hit or not. There are some skills (senser compensation skills) that can be trained to up your different sensor strengths and such and will help against jams.

As for the Guristas themselves, they can be a pain in the ass, they are known for heavy jams that can render all but Marauders in Bastion mode unable to lock targets.

Hope this sort of helps, if you need a hand with anything else, feel free to message me directly. I will try and answer any questions you have.
Alternatively, dont hesitate to use the forums to ask qeustions. Not everyone is helpful but in this subforum you will usually find 9/10 posters will help so long as you're willing to learn.

Until you get to a Battleship with Bastion, jamming will always be a problem. However to give yourself a little more damage, range and a bit more leeway in your missions, you could always grab a Corax or a Caracal (missile Destroyer and Cruiser respectively). Now while a Corax is higher DPS than a Kestrel its tank is round about the same (dessies are paper thin) whereas while the Caracal is overkill for level 1s and 2s, it really does give you a little more leeway to make mistakes within your missions.

You seem to have a habit for providing fundamentally ******* useless advice, and then getting indignant over the responses.

Suggesting "get a marauder" for someone doing level 2 missions puts you on the spectrum somewhere between "idiot" and "trolling idiot".

@OP: Jammers gonna jam. Generally speaking, you should be able to tank (through some combination of shield, speed, sig, and range) long enough for the jamming to end. If you can't, you probably need to rethink your fitting. I wouldn't bother with the auto targeting missiles - they're unreliable and the time you spend switching ammo is unlikely to be worth it. Drones, however, can be a big help - if you can sic them on the jammer before you get jammed, they'll continue to attack through the jam cycle.

Could you please point me to the part where you used the term "pointless" or any synonym thereof? I'm sorry if I misunderstood you but your wording was rather brief.

I can only repeat again _bring_a_friend_. Guristas will rarely ever jam more then one player ship on grid. Bring more then one ship, take out the jammer rats first and they become easy pray. The best solution remains to bring a Marauder because the bastion module, that can only be used on that ship class, makes them immune to jamming. It is the actual solution to your problem, may it be overkill or take you a year to reach it.

The formula for jamming can be found here. What doesn't help you because knowing the formula will not prevent you from getting jammed.

I am trying to do it in my Caracal now. my friend told me, frigates for lvl 1, destroyers for 2, cruisers for lvl 3 missions. this mission however wants me to kill 2 guristas battlecruisers and 6 cruisers. seems crazy for lvl 2 mission?

You are most likely doing the mission Recon (1 of 3) that is in the game unchanged for many years. If you would have named that mission right from the start I could have told you that you need to read and understand the mission text instead of shooting any NPCs.