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Sentries dps drop

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#21 - 2014-06-03 18:21:41 UTC
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
Yes sentry drones where nerfed. Sucks I know. But all the other drones are doing swell.


Also, remember how CCP stated that you will be able to fly today what you flew before?
I don't have any Amarr Drone Spec skills, because I did not need them for perfect sentry drone skills.
Now, I can't use T2 version at all.

CCP lied.
XxRTEKxX
Drunken Beaver Mining
Gnawthority
#22 - 2014-06-03 18:32:59 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
Yes sentry drones where nerfed. Sucks I know. But all the other drones are doing swell.


Also, remember how CCP stated that you will be able to fly today what you flew before?
I don't have any Amarr Drone Spec skills, because I did not need them for perfect sentry drone skills.
Now, I can't use T2 version at all.

CCP lied.


Good thing I trained all those up a long time ago.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-06-03 18:42:27 UTC
Heavypredator Singh wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
Heavypredator Singh wrote:
Few tweaks to UI/ships and 3 new ships - wouldnt call this expansion - maybe if I was blind fanboy.
Patch maybe.


Since you didn't even get the number of new ships right, yeah I would say you're not a fanboy. Blind, maybe. But not a fanboy. Lol


Im sorry for not counting t2 minning frig a ship.

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#24 - 2014-06-03 18:45:38 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


Also, remember how CCP stated that you will be able to fly today what you flew before?
I don't have any Amarr Drone Spec skills, because I did not need them for perfect sentry drone skills.
Now, I can't use T2 version at all.

CCP lied.

You can fly a sentry drone? Sign me up!

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Dominus Tempus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-06-03 18:49:11 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
The "I haven't paid attention to anything having to do with the upcoming expansion they announced months ago, now this major change has affected me, TO THE FORUMS!!!" thing that happens twice a year....

And now it will happen ten times a year.

Or perhaps it just won't stop.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-06-03 18:52:17 UTC
Dominus Tempus wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
The "I haven't paid attention to anything having to do with the upcoming expansion they announced months ago, now this major change has affected me, TO THE FORUMS!!!" thing that happens twice a year....

And now it will happen ten times a year.

Or perhaps it just won't stop.


I sure hope as hell the mini shitstorm we are about to have ever ~6 week won't outlast the time between patches.
Paul Panala
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-06-03 18:59:16 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
Yes sentry drones where nerfed. Sucks I know. But all the other drones are doing swell.


Also, remember how CCP stated that you will be able to fly today what you flew before?
I don't have any Amarr Drone Spec skills, because I did not need them for perfect sentry drone skills.
Now, I can't use T2 version at all.

CCP lied.


First, if you could fly T2s before, then you have all the prereqs needed to inject the skill, it is a cheap book and trains pretty fast. Where is the injustice? Second, that was not said long ago during the ship skill change, it was never said about this patch.
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
#28 - 2014-06-03 19:00:34 UTC
Have you looked at the range of your Garde's?

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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#29 - 2014-06-03 19:09:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Cipher Jones
Yeah, the dev post is 4 days old and no sticky thread in ideas and features. And they only released 8 ******* Dev blogs that day.

Seriously, 8 ******* blogs in one day. Pro.
*edit*
Im pro at counting, 9.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#30 - 2014-06-03 19:17:52 UTC
Paul Panala wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
Yes sentry drones where nerfed. Sucks I know. But all the other drones are doing swell.


Also, remember how CCP stated that you will be able to fly today what you flew before?
I don't have any Amarr Drone Spec skills, because I did not need them for perfect sentry drone skills.
Now, I can't use T2 version at all.

CCP lied.


First, if you could fly T2s before, then you have all the prereqs needed to inject the skill, it is a cheap book and trains pretty fast. Where is the injustice? Second, that was not said long ago during the ship skill change, it was never said about this patch.


You just asked Dinsdale Pirannha "where is the injustice". I hope you don't have anywhere to be for the next 12 days, because his answer will take about that long.
Xavier Higdon
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-06-03 19:19:57 UTC
Heavypredator Singh wrote:
Few tweaks to UI/ships and 3 new ships - wouldnt call this expansion - maybe if I was blind fanboy.
Patch maybe.


What would you consider an expansion? New content, an overhaul of a core game mechanic, a new UI for that mechanic... These things don't count I guess, so I'm wondering what does count? Maybe they should add mounts.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#32 - 2014-06-03 19:29:00 UTC
Heavypredator Singh wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
Heavypredator Singh wrote:
Few tweaks to UI/ships and 3 new ships - wouldnt call this expansion - maybe if I was blind fanboy.
Patch maybe.


Since you didn't even get the number of new ships right, yeah I would say you're not a fanboy. Blind, maybe. But not a fanboy. Lol


Im sorry for not counting t2 minning frig a ship.

'So somehow a ship isn't a ship because?

What a piece of ...work lol. Dozens of CCP employees working hard to enhance our game with an expansion for no extra cost and the best many of you can do is complain. Those CCP guys are way better than me, I'd through your pennies right back at you spoiled brats and tell you thanks but no thanks for your business.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2014-06-03 20:10:59 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Heavypredator Singh wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
Heavypredator Singh wrote:
Few tweaks to UI/ships and 3 new ships - wouldnt call this expansion - maybe if I was blind fanboy.
Patch maybe.


Since you didn't even get the number of new ships right, yeah I would say you're not a fanboy. Blind, maybe. But not a fanboy. Lol


Im sorry for not counting t2 minning frig a ship.

'So somehow a ship isn't a ship because?

What a piece of ...work lol. Dozens of CCP employees working hard to enhance our game with an expansion for no extra cost and the best many of you can do is complain. Those CCP guys are way better than me, I'd through your pennies right back at you spoiled brats and tell you thanks but no thanks for your business.

The prospect is the best ship in this expansion, and I don't ever plan on mining with it.

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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#34 - 2014-06-03 20:14:19 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Heavypredator Singh wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
Heavypredator Singh wrote:
Few tweaks to UI/ships and 3 new ships - wouldnt call this expansion - maybe if I was blind fanboy.
Patch maybe.


Since you didn't even get the number of new ships right, yeah I would say you're not a fanboy. Blind, maybe. But not a fanboy. Lol


Im sorry for not counting t2 minning frig a ship.

'So somehow a ship isn't a ship because?

What a piece of ...work lol. Dozens of CCP employees working hard to enhance our game with an expansion for no extra cost and the best many of you can do is complain. Those CCP guys are way better than me, I'd through your pennies right back at you spoiled brats and tell you thanks but no thanks for your business.

The prospect is the best ship in this expansion, and I don't ever plan on mining with it.


So many possibilities for that wee baby
Jiris Yusef
Ashtani
#35 - 2014-06-03 20:41:57 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
What?!?

You would think they would have put changes like that in a blog post or something. CCP has a lot of nerve.

Roll



You realize that nowhere in the dev blog does it say that your DPS will be decreased right? They rebalanced things by giving sentries more base damage and scaling them with racial specialization skills along with the reduction of the Drone Interfacing nerf. These changes were suppose to balance each other out and not actually result in a loss of DPS.

Yet the changes result in a loss of about 75 dps when using T2 sentries, which was NOT stated in the dev blog. And if you didn't have each of the 4 racial drone specializations trained up to 5 then you get even more of a damage loss, making you train 80 days of skills to still not get back the damage sentries lost in this patch.
Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
#36 - 2014-06-03 21:10:33 UTC
Heavypredator Singh wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
Heavypredator Singh wrote:
Few tweaks to UI/ships and 3 new ships - wouldnt call this expansion - maybe if I was blind fanboy.
Patch maybe.


Since you didn't even get the number of new ships right, yeah I would say you're not a fanboy. Blind, maybe. But not a fanboy. Lol


Im sorry for not counting t2 minning frig a ship.


Bless, did your lvl 4 mission ship get a bit of a nerf? Awww
Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
#37 - 2014-06-03 21:12:06 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
Yes sentry drones where nerfed. Sucks I know. But all the other drones are doing swell.


Also, remember how CCP stated that you will be able to fly today what you flew before?
I don't have any Amarr Drone Spec skills, because I did not need them for perfect sentry drone skills.
Now, I can't use T2 version at all.

CCP lied.


Dinsale they did it for you. I know with tinfoil on your head, you actually fly drones not ships...

Also "CCP hates you because they are goons" stealth post?
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#38 - 2014-06-03 21:13:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Zifrian
Jiris Yusef wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
What?!?

You would think they would have put changes like that in a blog post or something. CCP has a lot of nerve.

Roll



You realize that nowhere in the dev blog does it say that your DPS will be decreased right? They rebalanced things by giving sentries more base damage and scaling them with racial specialization skills along with the reduction of the Drone Interfacing nerf. These changes were suppose to balance each other out and not actually result in a loss of DPS.

Yet the changes result in a loss of about 75 dps when using T2 sentries, which was NOT stated in the dev blog. And if you didn't have each of the 4 racial drone specializations trained up to 5 then you get even more of a damage loss, making you train 80 days of skills to still not get back the damage sentries lost in this patch.

Read the part on sentrys. They removed the 20% damage bonus of t2 over t1 and replaced it with the 2% damage increase per level fort he racial specialization skills. So if you have those at level 5, it's a 10% damage nerd to sentrys.

It was pretty clear on this, which you've seemed to have read but didn't agree with?

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#39 - 2014-06-03 21:18:06 UTC
Last Wolf wrote:
Have you looked at the range of your Garde's?


This, DPS =/= applied damage

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Fix the Prospect!

Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2014-06-03 21:27:19 UTC
Ill be honestly I am so very very happy with my gila right now, I can't complain about sentries.
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