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So Fighter Bomber Hitpoints didn't get doubled as it was anounced in the Devblog or is this a bug?


Drone bay info only shows doubled shield but should be more with the hull and skill bonus of supers.

It won't show the stats unless the bombers are in your drone bay of your super carrier since the bonus is a ship bonus

Dont forget that players with CDO and not SDO still cannot use the Drone Link Augmentors that they could use before the change...

So, is anyone at CCP going to address this, or are you going to keep pretending this inequity doesn't exist?

So, here’s my view of the current situation with drones after the Kronos update.

I’ve already agreed with one of the previous posts, concerning drone mechanics in combat. Right now the cycle MWD-orbit-MWD renders the drones useless in a high-speed combat and it’s true for all types of drones.
Take Warriors for example. They got a speed boost, BUT even before the update I was able to raise their speed up to 7k. So, here’s the question: what does this speed boost give them? Nothing in particular.

And here’s why:
If the frigates speed is above 3.5 k m/s, the drones aren’t able to hit the target within the optimal range. Likely because Warriors lack tracking.

Let me explain what happens by drawing a parallel between drones and turrets.
Imagine if the turrets tracking mechanics worked like this – after defining the target’s coordinates in space, the turrets don’t align themselves to those coordinates directly.
Instead they first start moving along the vertical line till it intersects with the horizontal line, then they continue moving along the horizontal line till they finally reach the above mentioned coordinates. The target is still there? No? Too bad.

So, we are back to where we started: define the coordinates –> vertical aiming -> horizontal aiming (starting MWD for drones)….And once again the target has left the previously defined coordinates. How so?
So, what we’re looking at here is the example of how the drones’ MWD-orbit cycle works.
If the turrets tracking mechanism worked as it was described above, the turrets wouldn’t hit the targets after they crossed a certain speed threshold, the turrets would need ten times better tracking then they have now, 1 to 100 or even 1000.

But if the turrets did work according to the above-mentioned tracking mechanics 1 to 100 or 1 to 1000, they wouldn’t need tracking at all. Because they’ll be hitting their targets anyway.
As for the drones there’s a 99% chance of drones missing their target, if it flies above 4k m/s, thanks to the low orbiting speed of drones, even if their MWD speed is 7k m/s.

What I’m proposing is:

1. letting the drones shoot their targets without switching from MWD to orbiting in case the drone doesn’t have enough time to shoot its target in optimal range after calculating the point of entering the orbit.

2. raising the orbiting speed. According to my estimates it should be half the maximum MWD speed. Of course, in this case calculations must be accurate, but I doubt it will be of any problem once you have exact numbers.

3. if you don’t want to make the drones work right, try making turrets tracking mechanics work similar to what I wrote above keeping current tracking speeds intact. We’ll see how the majority of players reacts to such adjustments.

I would like my propositions to be considered as an option in patching the Kronos update, because you created drones as a weapon, but you didn’t make them work as they should.

Dear developers, your ideas are great and the Kronos update has brought many improvements, but it didn’t bring us what was originally intended.

I would also like to ask the EVE-community to support my post.

With best regards, capsuleer Alldark Kane

The more I look at my skill tree the more disappointed I am with the nerf to sentry drones. I'm well over 100 days of training away from getting back to where I was the day before the patch. And that is only if I count the ship bonuses on the Stratios. Without the ship bonuses Sentries are still down 10%.

Blah. . .

Why even bother posting to say such a thing? It's like you don't want CCP to treat everyone equally and feel so strongly that you must post about it? Your point is moot, anyway.

I finished training CDO V (having already had SDO V) about a week before the first dev blog announcement. I trained it at that time purely for remap reasons, not because I actually would get benefit immediately from the skill. I planned my training out to be optimal. I spent the ISK for +5s. I used a PLEX to train it with dual-character training. And all of this was a complete waste because CCP decided to remove the skill without any reimbursement for characters like mine (because I already had SDO V, SDO was used for all the skill transitions and CDO was simply and quietly removed). I did not speculate on the dev blog, so your argument is irrelevant. Although, if I had trained the skill because of the dev blog, the inequality of the change would still exist. It really does not matter.

This may only be 10 days of training time. It may be 100 days if you have 10 alts. The fact that CCP implemented a change as careless as this - that is so obviously imbalanced - and is unwilling to respond to any of the valid concerns brought forward by the players is a disgrace. If CCP continues to stay quiet on this and refuses to acknowledge the inequality that resulted from these changes, then it will remain a total blow to CCPs reputation in the minds of quite a few players. It is definitely not an encouraging sign if a change like this can make it into the game, even more discouraging if it is left uncorrected and unacknowledged. What prevents this from happening again with a skill that requires 2 PLEX to train? I guess we have to be careful not to pick the wrong skill combinations, else we might be out of luck...