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daisy chaining free trial accounts

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acacyan dumbledore
Affinity Cloud Interstellar Industries
#1 - 2014-06-03 11:30:29 UTC
are there any reasons that i cannot when my 14 day trial runs out just make another one and transfer all my cash and maybe some propperty? i know trading up to a PLEX in 14 days can be hard, but if i start out with whatever i have at the end of my first 14 days it shouldent be too hard. just keep daisy chaining free trials until i have enough cash flowing that i can supply at least one plex a month.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#2 - 2014-06-03 11:38:22 UTC
well, you could ... but that's turning a game (which is for fun) into a job (which is not fun).

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
acacyan dumbledore
Affinity Cloud Interstellar Industries
#3 - 2014-06-03 11:42:34 UTC
i'm not really planning on just trading 100% i am not experienced enough to trade at the scales this requires, i think i might try some ratting and see how well that turns out for me. the point is that i keep my profits rolling from one account to the next until i am selfsuficcient on plex
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#4 - 2014-06-03 11:43:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph Essael
Can trial accounts give isk / set up contracts???

Edit: As far as I am aware, trial accounts cannot. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

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gfldex
#5 - 2014-06-03 11:49:55 UTC
Seraph Essael wrote:
Edit: As far as I am aware, trial accounts cannot. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.


They can not. Nor can they use station trade, because you can't have more then one trial account active from the same IP. There is the option to leave ships in space and board them with the next account.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#6 - 2014-06-03 11:52:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
huh? so you want to daisy chain accounts for the next ~18 months until you have enough ISK to buy a plex?? Well, unless you can scam someone, but I think CCP makes trial accounts very hard to do that. Even if you used money to subscribe, it may take you a year to have enough skill and ISK income to start plexing an account, by normal means. Even then, in a year PLEX prices may be twice as high as they are now, since they just keep going up. Buy a sub for the year, you save a lot of money and the game remains a game and not a second and/or third job.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Rubishod
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-06-03 12:06:40 UTC
I was once explained that the best way to make isk in EVE is to get a real job and buy a PLEX.

Assuming one day lost every 14 for skill training and transfer of assets, you could instead go work a part time job for a day and most likely pocket $40, which'll sub for much more than a 14 day limited free trial.
acacyan dumbledore
Affinity Cloud Interstellar Industries
#8 - 2014-06-03 12:27:59 UTC
Rubishod wrote:
I was once explained that the best way to make isk in EVE is to get a real job and buy a PLEX.

Assuming one day lost every 14 for skill training and transfer of assets, you could instead go work a part time job for a day and most likely pocket $40, which'll sub for much more than a 14 day limited free trial.

eventually that's my plan, too bad i'm poor at the moment. getting a plex on multiple trial accounts is more of a proof of concept than a way into the game.

on a slightly different note, how many skills and what kinda gear do i need to earn the sweet sweet plex sized cash when i finally decide to invest in eve?
gfldex
#9 - 2014-06-03 12:54:16 UTC
acacyan dumbledore wrote:
on a slightly different note, how many skills and what kinda gear do i need to earn the sweet sweet plex sized cash when i finally decide to invest in eve?


The typical mission runner in highsec will make about 1BISK/week with investments of ~2BISK (not including skill books). If you want higher income with less time wasted in front of a screen you will have to bring more brains then the typical mission runner.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#10 - 2014-06-03 14:13:29 UTC
Eh quickest non-scamming way would probably be faction war.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
acacyan dumbledore
Affinity Cloud Interstellar Industries
#11 - 2014-06-03 14:18:00 UTC
what corp in what alliance in cfc to go for?
Li Quiao
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-06-03 14:42:45 UTC
acacyan dumbledore wrote:
are there any reasons that i cannot when my 14 day trial runs out just make another one and transfer all my cash and maybe some propperty? i know trading up to a PLEX in 14 days can be hard, but if i start out with whatever i have at the end of my first 14 days it shouldent be too hard. just keep daisy chaining free trials until i have enough cash flowing that i can supply at least one plex a month.


Several difficulties with that plan:

--Trial accounts can't transfer cash.
--Trial accounts can't make contracts (which is mostly how you'd transfer property)
--You can't have more than one trial account active at a time (which means you can't have both accounts available at once to do the transfer)
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-06-03 14:47:36 UTC
acacyan dumbledore wrote:
what corp in what alliance in cfc to go for?

the one that will not ask for an entry fee and offer hauling your assets for you.

as for a general response to your proposal: while 14 days certainly is enough time to multiply your isk with trade, you are pretty much locked out of any other activity, as even ratting requires a few days of skill training to be somewhat effective. you CAN transfer assets from one trial account to another by dropping them in an asteroid belt in some quiet system and then picking them up wit your next char, but this practice will become more tedious and more dangerous, the more value you are transferring.

if you are dead set on not spending money on eve (as i was when i first started), you can try to make a deal with a trustworthy veteran where he sends you a buddy invite and then borrows you a plex to activate your account. he will then get his plex back through the buddy invite and you will get 51 total days to scrape together the isk for your next plex.

I should buy an Ishtar.
acacyan dumbledore
Affinity Cloud Interstellar Industries
#14 - 2014-06-03 15:43:36 UTC
Li Quiao wrote:
acacyan dumbledore wrote:
are there any reasons that i cannot when my 14 day trial runs out just make another one and transfer all my cash and maybe some propperty? i know trading up to a PLEX in 14 days can be hard, but if i start out with whatever i have at the end of my first 14 days it shouldent be too hard. just keep daisy chaining free trials until i have enough cash flowing that i can supply at least one plex a month.


Several difficulties with that plan:

--Trial accounts can't transfer cash.
--Trial accounts can't make contracts (which is mostly how you'd transfer property)
--You can't have more than one trial account active at a time (which means you can't have both accounts available at once to do the transfer)


account 1 earns cash
account 2 sets up a trade offer for an item that is horrifically overpriced
account 1 buys said item
profit.
Li Quiao
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2014-06-03 16:03:34 UTC
acacyan dumbledore wrote:
Li Quiao wrote:
acacyan dumbledore wrote:
are there any reasons that i cannot when my 14 day trial runs out just make another one and transfer all my cash and maybe some propperty? i know trading up to a PLEX in 14 days can be hard, but if i start out with whatever i have at the end of my first 14 days it shouldent be too hard. just keep daisy chaining free trials until i have enough cash flowing that i can supply at least one plex a month.


Several difficulties with that plan:

--Trial accounts can't transfer cash.
--Trial accounts can't make contracts (which is mostly how you'd transfer property)
--You can't have more than one trial account active at a time (which means you can't have both accounts available at once to do the transfer)


account 1 earns cash
account 2 sets up a trade offer for an item that is horrifically overpriced
account 1 buys said item
profit.


Either account 1 or account 2 will need to be paid for, since they can't both be trials active at the same time.
acacyan dumbledore
Affinity Cloud Interstellar Industries
#16 - 2014-06-03 16:37:28 UTC
Li Quiao wrote:
acacyan dumbledore wrote:
Li Quiao wrote:
acacyan dumbledore wrote:
are there any reasons that i cannot when my 14 day trial runs out just make another one and transfer all my cash and maybe some propperty? i know trading up to a PLEX in 14 days can be hard, but if i start out with whatever i have at the end of my first 14 days it shouldent be too hard. just keep daisy chaining free trials until i have enough cash flowing that i can supply at least one plex a month.


Several difficulties with that plan:

--Trial accounts can't transfer cash.
--Trial accounts can't make contracts (which is mostly how you'd transfer property)
--You can't have more than one trial account active at a time (which means you can't have both accounts available at once to do the transfer)


account 1 earns cash
account 2 sets up a trade offer for an item that is horrifically overpriced
account 1 buys said item
profit.


Either account 1 or account 2 will need to be paid for, since they can't both be trials active at the same time.


what do you mean? i set up the trade on accout 2, log out. log in on account 1 and buy the item. i only need one account logged in at any one time.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-06-03 16:48:23 UTC
be aware that this should be done in a station that has no other offers for the same item, as the cheapest offer will always be bought.

I should buy an Ishtar.
acacyan dumbledore
Affinity Cloud Interstellar Industries
#18 - 2014-06-03 17:05:00 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
be aware that this should be done in a station that has no other offers for the same item, as the cheapest offer will always be bought.

but i'm not selling cheap, i'm overpricing. if someone decides to buy a single antimatter charge for 32 million isk, so be it.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-06-03 17:54:23 UTC
acacyan dumbledore wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
be aware that this should be done in a station that has no other offers for the same item, as the cheapest offer will always be bought.

but i'm not selling cheap, i'm overpricing. if someone decides to buy a single antimatter charge for 32 million isk, so be it.

no, what i mean is if you try to buy your overpriced item with your 'old' alt, someone else might get the money because he was selling the same item a little cheaper than you in the same station.

I should buy an Ishtar.
John F Kohn
Wraits at work
#20 - 2014-06-03 17:55:52 UTC
Account 2 set AM charge for 32 milions. Other player offers AM charge for usual 5 ISK. Account 1 comes to buys AM charge but it can not buy AM for 32 milions because there is an offer for 5 ISK. You always buy from the cheapiest offer. There is a kind of market PvP based on this fact.
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