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Sacrificing aesthetic for performance. Is it necessary?

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Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2014-06-03 15:23:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Arline Kley
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DerpimusPrime Aihaken
Free Tank Test
#22 - 2014-06-03 15:27:02 UTC
People need to upgrade their computers, end of story.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2014-06-03 15:41:55 UTC
DerpimusPrime Aihaken wrote:
People need to upgrade their computers, end of story.

This has exactly nothing to do with the topic.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#24 - 2014-06-03 15:45:47 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
The CAG can only coordinate with 10 ships flying at 4km/s at once.

There you go.


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Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2014-06-03 15:47:49 UTC
Many years ago i joined and was in awe at the supers. Particularly the nyx. Its by far my favorite ship in the game for its looks. But here in the past few years ccp and the player base has been totally against the supers. It seems every year we bring more nerfs to those once awesome fear inducing ships. Now they are becoming pathetic. When i finally got the chance to purchase a super i did not go with a super carrier. Simply because i knew they would continue nerfing them. I really wish we could stop with the balancing of game models and ship attributes and just invest in better technology and bigger computers for the cluster itself.

I hope one day we get those old supers back. The ones that struck fear in you as you seen that titan land on grid and you just knew that your entire fleet was about to be obliterated. Or those motherships landed and you knew your carriers were in big trouble. Today they seem more like a sorry joke. Thats why we just field more of them. To make up for the pathetic nerfs.

Bring back our end game ships. Bring back the fear. Stop giving all the power to just frigate gangs and capital blobs. Encourage more diversification.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-06-03 15:52:36 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Elysium Prime wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
There are very few sacrifices that would not be appropriate, if it meant improving server performance.


And that is why this idea is so good. Your not sacrificing performance. There are still only 10 fighters active. But it would LOOK like (model only) 20 fighters . 10 formations of fighters. A Lead and his Wing man x 10 as one model.

What you are doing is saving the aesthetic of the Supercarriers.


So you'd double the number of physical objects being tracked by the server?


No, what he's talking about is purely client side.

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-06-03 16:18:25 UTC  |  Edited by: March rabbit
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
There are very few sacrifices that would not be appropriate, if it meant improving server performance.

that depends....

in this case we sacrifice something FOR SOME (many drone users in EVE Online) to improve server performance FOR SOME OTHER (participants of huge battles - mostly 0.0 seccers). It's like we have not enough reasons to hate each other in this game already....

Personally i always loved 'drone swarm'.... And when my battleship can only field 2 drones.... Hm.... It's like one-gun ship....

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Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#28 - 2014-06-03 16:37:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Money Makin Mitch
Seriously though... why can't supers use regular drones? Or titans for that matter.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#29 - 2014-06-03 16:52:54 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
The CAG can only coordinate with 10 ships flying at 4km/s at once.

There you go.


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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#30 - 2014-06-03 17:19:51 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:



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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2014-06-03 21:31:26 UTC
Rhealee wrote:
Many years ago i joined and was in awe at the supers. Particularly the nyx. Its by far my favorite ship in the game for its looks. But here in the past few years ccp and the player base has been totally against the supers. It seems every year we bring more nerfs to those once awesome fear inducing ships. Now they are becoming pathetic. When i finally got the chance to purchase a super i did not go with a super carrier. Simply because i knew they would continue nerfing them. I really wish we could stop with the balancing of game models and ship attributes and just invest in better technology and bigger computers for the cluster itself.

I hope one day we get those old supers back. The ones that struck fear in you as you seen that titan land on grid and you just knew that your entire fleet was about to be obliterated. Or those motherships landed and you knew your carriers were in big trouble. Today they seem more like a sorry joke. Thats why we just field more of them. To make up for the pathetic nerfs.

Bring back our end game ships. Bring back the fear. Stop giving all the power to just frigate gangs and capital blobs. Encourage more diversification.

Hah.
Maybe a good idea for a game where coalitions didn't have thousands of titans and supers. But not now.

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KrakizBad
Section 8.
#32 - 2014-06-03 21:34:53 UTC
Honestly not opposed to this idea. Not like I keep drone models on going into a lagfest fight anyway.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#33 - 2014-06-03 21:35:03 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
The CAG can only coordinate with 10 ships flying at 4km/s at once.

There you go.


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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-06-03 21:47:35 UTC
It would have saved a lot of headaches if all drones worked like this at launch, and you could only deploy one type of drone at a time.

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#35 - 2014-06-03 21:51:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
CCP Falcon wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
The CAG can only coordinate with 10 ships flying at 4km/s at once.

There you go.


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Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2014-06-03 22:11:35 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
DerpimusPrime Aihaken wrote:
People need to upgrade their computers, end of story.

This has exactly nothing to do with the topic.


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