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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#381 - 2014-06-03 15:31:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Liese Shardani wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
there was nothing systematic or continued about what E1 did, it was a single bonus room.


Umm, by E1's own admission, there were dozens or as many as hundreds of Bonus Rooms, each of them hours in length. Several recordings are easy to find on SoundCloud.
Yet CCP failed to do anything about Erotica's antics, over a considerable length of time, until a member of the CSM decided to start a witch hunt with an inflammatory blog post that personally attacked another player.

That implies Erotica's, admittedly distasteful, actions were allowed or at least tolerated by CCP; at least until Ripard decided to publicly call him a despicable, vile, evil human being and accuse him of torture. He didn't even deign to contact the "victim" in this fiasco to ask how he felt about what happened, especially with regards to the so called torture.

Intellectual dishonesty and self serving tabloid journalism are terms that spring to mind, not things I like or want to see from a CSM member.

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Dave Stark
#382 - 2014-06-03 15:34:34 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
That implies Eroticas, admittedly distasteful, actions were allowed, or at least tolerated by CCP; at least until Ripard decided to publicly call him a despicable, vile, evil human being and accuse him of torture. He didn't even deign to contact the "victim" in this fiasco to ask how he felt about what happened, especially with regards to the so called torture.

can't let the people involved have a say, that'd bias the bias.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#383 - 2014-06-03 15:35:56 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
there were dozens or as many as hundreds of Bonus Rooms
That implies Eroticas


Plural

spooky

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Vyl Vit
#384 - 2014-06-03 15:36:53 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
@Serene Repose:

Which country bans making people sing Disney songs? Or laughing at them? Or stealing their video game money?

I mean, it'd be really nice to know which international laws I might be breaking by laughing at someone.
Serene's the wrong one to ask. The real question is, what do you know about the subject? Apparently, not a whole lot. Don't embarrass yourself trying to look clever, or impeccably logical. Inform yourself.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#385 - 2014-06-03 15:37:27 UTC
Altrue wrote:
I'm surprised by the number of people being mean, these articles were very nice!

7o Ripard, thank you for making the blog I red the most in 2013-14.



Seriously.

As if all other bloggers are filled with The Truth. Honestly, they almost all have their own selfish, personal "agendas". But where are the complaints about them ???

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#386 - 2014-06-03 15:37:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
there were dozens or as many as hundreds of Bonus Rooms
That implies Eroticas


Plural

spooky
Missed an apostrophe or two, dammit Oops

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Vyl Vit
#387 - 2014-06-03 15:39:33 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
@Serene Repose:Which country bans making people sing Disney songs? Or laughing at them? Or stealing their video game money?
I mean, it'd be really nice to know which international laws I might be breaking by laughing at someone.
Serene's the wrong one to ask. The real question is, what do you know about the subject? Apparently, not a whole lot. Don't embarrass yourself trying to look clever, or impeccably logical. Inform yourself.
Good try Sir Vit! They're going to insist on beating this dead horse till it's molecular structure has dissipated. What is amusing is, some people don't care how stupid they look. That may be because...they're STUPID!

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LinkNet
#388 - 2014-06-03 15:39:46 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
there were dozens or as many as hundreds of Bonus Rooms
That implies Eroticas


Plural

spooky
Missed an apostrophe dammit Oops

Are you sure?
How do you know, right now, hundreds if not THOUSANDS of Erotica clones arent continuing to run the Boners Room empire beneath our very feet!?

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Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#389 - 2014-06-03 15:41:22 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Vyl Vit wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
@Serene Repose:Which country bans making people sing Disney songs? Or laughing at them? Or stealing their video game money?
I mean, it'd be really nice to know which international laws I might be breaking by laughing at someone.
Serene's the wrong one to ask. The real question is, what do you know about the subject? Apparently, not a whole lot. Don't embarrass yourself trying to look clever, or impeccably logical. Inform yourself.
Good try Sir Vit! They're going to insist on beating this dead horse till it's molecular structure has dissipated. What is amusing is, some people don't care how stupid they look. That may be because...they're STUPID!
It doesn't matter how many times you repeat yourself, Vyl. This is psychosis in progress.

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#390 - 2014-06-03 15:41:54 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Altrue wrote:
I'm surprised by the number of people being mean, these articles were very nice!

7o Ripard, thank you for making the blog I red the most in 2013-14.



Seriously.

As if all other bloggers are filled with The Truth. Honestly, they almost all have their own selfish, personal "agendas". But where are the complaints about them ???


Other bloggers have nothing to do with this.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#391 - 2014-06-03 15:41:59 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Altrue wrote:
I'm surprised by the number of people being mean, these articles were very nice!

7o Ripard, thank you for making the blog I red the most in 2013-14.



Seriously.

As if all other bloggers are filled with The Truth. Honestly, they almost all have their own selfish, personal "agendas". But where are the complaints about them ???


You're kidding, right? First of all, we're not talking about them, we're talking about Riptard.

Secondly, people cry and howl about mynnna damn near every day! All because of what his alliance ticker says.

As opposed to Riptard, where people are disagreeing with what he says and does.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#392 - 2014-06-03 15:42:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Vyl Vit wrote:
Vyl Vit wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
@Serene Repose:Which country bans making people sing Disney songs? Or laughing at them? Or stealing their video game money?
I mean, it'd be really nice to know which international laws I might be breaking by laughing at someone.
Serene's the wrong one to ask. The real question is, what do you know about the subject? Apparently, not a whole lot. Don't embarrass yourself trying to look clever, or impeccably logical. Inform yourself.
Good try Sir Vit! They're going to insist on beating this dead horse till it's molecular structure has dissipated. What is amusing is, some people don't care how stupid they look. That may be because...they're STUPID!
You should remember to change alts when sock puppeting your own posts Roll

Edit : Irony overload when it comes to looking stupid.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
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#393 - 2014-06-03 15:43:11 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Funny. You, perhaps, sought a preemptive ban? This E1 person, whether anyone wishes to believe it or not, participated in some rather bizarre, if not psychologically disturbed behavior.
Uh no, funnily enough I expect to see a reactive ban. So a player feels they are harassed, petitions it, CCP agrees and applies a ban. In this instance, CCP had been aware, since they commented on previous posts about it. The "victim" had not reported it, as he didn't want a ban as he agreed that no rule was broken. So what, like 6 weeks after the event a ban is applied because a CSM member started a hate campaign? If Ripard wanted to make a culture change and get CCP to enforce a rule going forward, fair enough, but that's not what he wanted, he wanted this one person banned because he hated him personally.

Serene Repose wrote:
Anyone who's bothered to familiarize themselves with LAW - the law where the player resides, Icelandic law where CCP resides, the over-arching federal laws of all nations involved (as I've said before) much to your SURPRISE you'll find a lot more in there than "harassment".

And, you will find that incident with "E1" (as he is affectionately called) walked all over several of these laws. That it was brought to CCP's attention belatedly matters not to the law enforcement apparatus of the world. That it was brought to their attention and they took no action makes CCP complicit, and I'll tell you a little secret. None of you would be at the barricades supporting CCP should their rights be trampled. It's laughable to think CCP staff should pay fines or go to jail to appeal to YOUR idea of fairness, justice and propriety.
L O L
OK space lawyer, tell me all about the Icelandic legal system and how it relates to asking someone to sing songs on voice comms. I mean firstly it would not legally constitute harassment unless it was sustained and the victim was pursued (instead of in this case where the victim refused to leave), and secondly CCP have absolutely no responsibility for what happens on a 3rd party service, and no legal liability for same.

Serene Repose wrote:
In fact, reading over this thread, most of the participants haven't got clue one about the actual subject matter
Yes, you've made that readily apparent.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#394 - 2014-06-03 15:43:42 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
@Serene Repose:

Which country bans making people sing Disney songs? Or laughing at them? Or stealing their video game money?

I mean, it'd be really nice to know which international laws I might be breaking by laughing at someone.
Serene's the wrong one to ask. The real question is, what do you know about the subject? Apparently, not a whole lot. Don't embarrass yourself trying to look clever, or impeccably logical. Inform yourself.


Serene was the one claiming to know about all these laws that people are supposedly walking all over by being mean in a videogame.

So yeah, I'd like her to back up her bullshit claim, if that's ok with you.

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#395 - 2014-06-03 15:45:31 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Vyl Vit wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
@Serene Repose:Which country bans making people sing Disney songs? Or laughing at them? Or stealing their video game money?
I mean, it'd be really nice to know which international laws I might be breaking by laughing at someone.
Serene's the wrong one to ask. The real question is, what do you know about the subject? Apparently, not a whole lot. Don't embarrass yourself trying to look clever, or impeccably logical. Inform yourself.
Good try Sir Vit! They're going to insist on beating this dead horse till it's molecular structure has dissipated. What is amusing is, some people don't care how stupid they look. That may be because...they're STUPID!


Did you just comment on your own quote in the third person? Hmmm...

Don't mind me, folks, I'm just cruising this thread for potential wartargets, while I compose an article for my blog about how Serene Repose's terrible posting constitutes torture.

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Dave Stark
#396 - 2014-06-03 15:45:58 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Altrue wrote:
I'm surprised by the number of people being mean, these articles were very nice!

7o Ripard, thank you for making the blog I red the most in 2013-14.



Seriously.

As if all other bloggers are filled with The Truth. Honestly, they almost all have their own selfish, personal "agendas". But where are the complaints about them ???

which ones started a witch hunt to get another player banned?
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#397 - 2014-06-03 15:48:17 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Vyl Vit wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
@Serene Repose:Which country bans making people sing Disney songs? Or laughing at them? Or stealing their video game money?
I mean, it'd be really nice to know which international laws I might be breaking by laughing at someone.
Serene's the wrong one to ask. The real question is, what do you know about the subject? Apparently, not a whole lot. Don't embarrass yourself trying to look clever, or impeccably logical. Inform yourself.
Good try Sir Vit! They're going to insist on beating this dead horse till it's molecular structure has dissipated. What is amusing is, some people don't care how stupid they look. That may be because...they're STUPID!
lol, alt fail. You lose. Bye Bye, thanks for playing.

By the way "Don't embarrass yourself trying to look clever", or you know, trying to alt-comment on your own posts to give them validation.

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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#398 - 2014-06-03 15:49:23 UTC
Riptard made the choice to use his position as a blogger and CSM to get E1 banned. After this he lost both. Everything else is just speculation.

It's over and things will keep going. It's not the end!
Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
#399 - 2014-06-03 15:50:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Ab'del Abu
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Ab'del Abu wrote:
People have voted him into that position for him to speak his mind. If he deems E1's behavior a form of torture, a statement many a people and definitions clearly seem to agree with, I would fully expect of a responsible elected representitive to make this case. It would appear CCP's decision (+ the full CMS's approval) of the ban would prove him right.
OK, so if a CSM member doesn't like you, they can stir up bad press about you too then, until CCP ban you? You consider that acceptable because we voted them into power?

And you think the method for CSM memebrs to communicate their concerns with CCP is to blog about it in ludicrous terms and stir up a shitstorm?

Oh and just FYI, deeming it a form of torture is an insult to people who are legitimate victims of torture. It's like how a **** victim would feel if you said that someone winking at you is ****.


Elected representatives are allowed to change to the definition of torture?

Oh wait, in some countries they regularly do that

To allow it.



tell me two things:

1.) where did I say anyone would be allowed to define things in an arbitrary fashion?
2.) how was "the definition" changed by ripard?

EDIT: also, opting out of this discussion. Too many idiots participating...
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#400 - 2014-06-03 15:50:51 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Altrue wrote:
I'm surprised by the number of people being mean, these articles were very nice!

7o Ripard, thank you for making the blog I red the most in 2013-14.



Seriously.

As if all other bloggers are filled with The Truth. Honestly, they almost all have their own selfish, personal "agendas". But where are the complaints about them ???

which ones started a witch hunt to get another player banned?
Dave I am disappoint, you missed a great opportunity to link a Monty Python scene there.

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