EVE General Discussion

Nope

Fundamentally, I don't see how rental runs contrary to any "intention" of EVE. The OP's first assumption is there is a way EVE is meant to be. Sure, maybe he's been staring at asteroids too long and started to think (an enterprise with which everyone isn't safe.) Or, it could be in his desperate longing for that ideal corp which never manages to materialize, he's let his mind drift into territory interesting only to his shrink and governed only by thorazine. Whatever the case, EVE has no "this is how it's supposed to be" configuration. It sometimes appeals to some folks, while at the same time not to others. Or, things become reversed - vice versa, as it is said.

What bugs people, I guess, who are rampant PvP-ers (and who get actual rashes and a ringing in their ears when the idea of PvE fires what few synapses they do possess) is that someone can come up with methods to productively spend time without running around virtually killing everything in sight (while pretending not to run from things that can virtually kill YOU.) Since PvE-ers comprise a solid majority in gaming, and always will, it's never unusual to see a cooperative venture (such as you see with renting in EVE today) arise and flourish. In fact, it's inevitable when you're dealing with a group with a lot more synapses to fire than rampant PvP-ers can imagine to possess. It's, as we say, a natural function of intelligence!

That itching, and twitching that makes you convulse in your seat as you imagine people actually being cooperative instead of destroying each other; that closing-in of the walls, and ringing in your ears as you see people want to build instead of fight, that's just your brain telling you, you have something out of balance - out of whack - malfunctioning in a major way. Rather than come into this forum and cry, you should seek professional help. There are people out there trained to deal with your problem.

Your alternative (as it will always be with EVE) is to pull together sufficient force to use the slash and burn technique of diplomacy and teach these fools the meaning of life...er, death. After all, this is EVE. Who is there to stop you, hmm?

How will it make better for smaller alliances?

If it is that much harder to move around then those smaller alliances are effectively going to be cut off from any kind of support (unless of course they make deals with other entities which will just create a big blue doughnut.. wait a minute) where as the larger alliances are going to both defend their space whilst attacking other space.

Power projection works both ways, it allows you to both defend and attack, if you nerf power projection too much then all you do is make it so the smaller entities can only attack where as the largest will still be able to do both.

Hence the problem that no matter what changes you make, those with more will always come out on top, you can pretty much apply this in all walks of life, those with more money, more power, more people tend to be the victors.

Uhhh....try another game? Something a bit more relaxing? And, stay away from places where sarcasm is used a lot! There you go!

Yes

That's sort of the point

Wait

I thought according to some regular GD posters "most people live in High Sec", "most people dont PvP" and "Most people are not in Nulliances".....

Im sorry but I still dont see whats wrong with any of this

Can someone explain what the problem is?

he didn't say things you arguing with

It's not "wrong". The question is whether it is right or best.

A system where smaller organizations had the possibility to call something their own just might produce more immersion for these small groups than is the case today thus leading to a stronger customer rentention.

Some people just don't like huge organizations or the feeling that this is a must in order to influence anything.

It's not about me, cause I don't care much either way, but I think to change this (how?) could lead to more activity in Eve.

How will severely nerfing power projection make life better for smaller sized groups?

I'm sorry but even if you half the jump range of Titan Bridges, Supers Carriers, Dreads etc and triple fuel costs all you are doing is giving more power to the bigger alliances as they have the man power / ships / isk to cope where as the smaller groups will not.

How many titans and cyno pilots do the likes of PL, NC, CFC, Solar have?

All they have to do is add a few more Titans in the cyno chain. Even if you half the range and they have to use twice the Titans, they still have the ships and pilots to do this.

Triple fuel costs, again, these entities have 100's of billions of isk and then some, they can absorb it.

So sure, massively nerf Titan Bridges, all Ships with Jump Drives and massively increase fuel costs, all your going to do is hurt the smaller entities as they are the guys who do not have those kind of resources.

Even if you nerf power projection to the point where even the likes of CFC, NC, PL etc go "Jesus" what do you think the smaller guys are going to say?