EVE General Discussion

I actually logged in to check, 38 jumps this late at night... no thx. Tomorrow if you want to meet me halfway I'll be there to feed a thrasher to you. Or whatever else you fancy.

Touche... I think I like you... in a totally platonic forum poster and not gay sort of way.

I agree with you. Though in my case, the "winning" was to be able to learn things I don't know (always worth more to me than any hull). Maybe it's more selfish than anything.

I lose a lot of fights and don't learn a thing (SOV warfare has a lot of that). I don't feel very good about these losses because it literally feels like everything you did ended up in a void somewhere.

See....

Conflict, forum war, explosions and bashing has brought people together (weeps tears of joy )


There is a deep rooted social aspect to not screwing someone over. I have met physicists, solders, archeologists, mathematicians, computer wizes and guys who could only say "I work in national security" ...all through a philosophy of interacting with people in EVE on their own terms and doing what I said I would do.

Because of this, I can honestly say that EVE Online has enriched me in ways that are hard to quantify... despite the fact i now find it immensely boring most of the time. These lessons have found their way into my real life, and have helped me expand my view of the world around me. As well as the people within it.



People will respect you if you play fair. The so called Eve "Bushido" that everyone looks down upon forms allegiances that are stronger then what can be bought with ISK. Those allegiances are rare but can go on to dominate the eve universe in ways that alliances content to screw each other over in order to get ahead cannot.

Most people here will never tap this power. You will scarcely even know that it exists because of the way that you chose to play the game. My gripe is not with the philosophy of "you should never get yourself into a fight that you are not sure to win" my gripe is that it has become the exclusive philosophy of individuals that shy away from all forms of fair competition. They use this as a justification that leads to trolling , bad sportsmanship and a steadily declining community environment now dominated by troll culture.


We deserve better.
Eve deserves better...

And all that we have to do in order to fix this is simply change our minds about losing a cheap and easily replaceable ship. The fun, the comradery (even with your enemies) and the teamwork out weighs stats posted on a killboard that no one really reads, sees or cares much about.



Just some food for braining....

LOL
fair competition = sport
fighting = maximum unfairness
do not take your sporting attitude into a fight
or whine about it if you do

You want me to come half way there?

Sure. But pick a system. A 0.5.

If you want more, I can bring my siblings too.

Do you want me or us in a frigate, or destroyer?
Please note that I'm the only outlaw, so your experience will differ a lot between me and them.

I can lose my ship a hundred times, die in a fire horribly and still be superior to the pattern of behavior you, and people like you, have exhibited here in this thread. I can become a carebear that only runs missions in an officer fit battleship, and still be true to who I was and my word. I could give up my PVP career completely and take up mining in a hulk...

And still be superior to a person who talks a massive game, but does nothing when they get slapped in the face.




And Board games = ?
Video Games = ?


Tell me Chopper, at what point did reality fall apart for you completely, and when did you lose the ability to tell the difference between a fight for your life and a video game?

Having to beg on GD for fights doesn't make you superior to anyone. Particularly when you only accept the rookies and dodge everyone else.

Good on Sibyyl for taking you on and all credit for spending time to try teach her some tactics. Problem is it results in comments like this, which there's just no need for.

Who did I dodge?

Now, since I do not want this thread closed again so soon...

I am going to shut up for a while, go to work and come back after I meet up with Solecist Project in HEK. After we report on that fight here in this thread, I will be happy to continue until the ISD decides he wants to sacrifice another goat.


I do expect to lose this fight btw...
But guess what, I am still going... and a thrasher might as well be a shuttle to me so who cares if I lose it. Right?



@Remiel Pollard

I have been quite clear in pages past and hence deleted, how hard it has been to get a decent fight over the years. What has happened here in this thread is a good enough example of that, in black and white for all to see. If you have found a way to find more 1v1's and gang vs gangs without carrier drops and ridiculous amounts of logistics, then good for you.


Edit 2:
I do however see allot of helpless PVE boats there, if that is what you are referring to... that does not count. You are just hunting lambs... that is not a roll of the dice. And yes, a number of kills are missing from my battleclinic board. Some pretty good ones. But when I mention it people generally scream bullshit... so I just let it go. This includes my confirmed fight last night. It is not on my board right?



Ok now I really have to go! Play amongst yourselves while I'm gone!