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Definition of a solo player in Eve
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Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp
#1 - 2014-06-03 01:39:31 UTC
As I was looking around and getting more familiar with the forums, I did a search to see if there was any thread about what *is* considered being a solo player in Eve Online. I did not really find a thread dedicated to defining what is a solo player.

With the statement obtained by Capt. TurAmarth ElRandir from CCP Seagull (see my sig for the link), it is good to know CCP cares about this play style, so I thought the community could contribute their views about defining what is a Solo Player, in a constructive way.

There are a few rules I'd like to lay down for this thread to be useful:
- Post your own definition below
- Avoid trolling or being sarcastic if this is not your play style. Simply ignore this thread, as it is not intended for you.
- Do your best to keep it short identifying the main characteristics of a solo player, and do not get drown in details.
--Do not comment or respond about other player's definition, as the point is not to find a unique truth, but to understand all the truths out there.
- If you care about the subject, Read all the other definitions, and like the ones you could agree with, even if they do not match perfectly your own views.

Thanks!

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Solecist Project
#2 - 2014-06-03 01:40:26 UTC
lol this again.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#3 - 2014-06-03 01:41:03 UTC
Someone who does not play or work well with others

Often uses multiple alts for various roles and to "puffball" their solo corp to look bigger

However, may operate exclusively in NPC corps to avoid wardecs

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Dominus Tempus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-06-03 01:41:11 UTC
Solo Player: Somebody who doesn't realize that they are playing a multiplayer game.
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-06-03 01:45:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Adira Nictor
Solo Player: A solo player is a player who's primary activities in game are done alone. In 90% of cases I call these players targets, the other 10% are elite pvpers.

Dominus Tempus wrote:
Solo Player: Somebody who doesn't realize that they are playing a multiplayer game.


I would disagree with this, much of my activity is done alone. I act alone for the most part and while I am surrounded by people, I am never one of the "team" Just because I play solo doesn't mean I don't interact with people.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#6 - 2014-06-03 01:48:39 UTC
Dominus Tempus wrote:
Solo Player: Somebody who doesn't realize that they are playing a multiplayer game.

Surely someone who hunts players on their own is playing a multiplayer game?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-06-03 01:48:57 UTC
1 man and all of his boosting and scout alts.

Am i close?
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#8 - 2014-06-03 01:51:00 UTC
Someone who does not join a corp, doesn't chat or talk, someone who just plays the game as if it was a single player game.

These are the people who bounce. No interaction in anyway with anyone.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#9 - 2014-06-03 01:57:42 UTC
Solo player = plays on their own.

Often means 1 player, 1 character
Often means 1 player, many characters
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-06-03 01:59:04 UTC
Solo players are those who live in highsec exclusively and uses only highsec content exclusively.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#11 - 2014-06-03 02:00:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
Someone who doesn't realise they are playing a game which is about getting the most pap links.
Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp
#12 - 2014-06-03 02:09:15 UTC
A solo player chooses to not join player's controlled entities, and build their own in-game income without relying on others or paying taxes to any players' controlled entity.

Solo players have no instantaneous access to alliances or corp's intel.
The nature of the game push them to have a few alts for scouting, and possibly multiboxing multiple accounts.
They are looking for challenges they estimate they can survive with their existing assets, putting their own skins and assets on the line in an environment that is more favorable to bigger groups. They are probably a little paranoid as well as liking tough challenges.

They most likely fall under the profiles of Freedom Fighters or Bounty Hunters established by CCP.
They are still interacting with the other players as needed to fulfill the goals they have established for themselves in Eve Online.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#13 - 2014-06-03 02:09:36 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Solo players are those who live in highsec exclusively and uses only highsec content exclusively.

Thats a bear, Carebear if they avoid conflict as well.

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Jegrey Dozer
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-06-03 02:30:11 UTC
I would imagine that a large portion of the EvE community engages in solo ISK generating activity. Therefore, I do not think that it is appropriate to target anyone engaging in PvE; otherwise, the line is very blurred.

Which pretty much leaves only PvP.

So my definition of a solo player is someone who does not engage in PvP combat with any friends, because they do not have any. This does not mean to say that they do not PvP. However, because they do not communicate with anyone, they are no different than an intelligent NPC. Thus, they do not contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game and serve to degrade the entire foundation of this MMORPG.
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2014-06-03 02:32:26 UTC
Jegrey Dozer wrote:
I would imagine that a large portion of the EvE community engages in solo ISK generating activity. Therefore, I do not think that it is appropriate to target anyone engaging in PvE; otherwise, the line is very blurred.

Which pretty much leaves only PvP.

So my definition of a solo player is someone who does not engage in PvP combat with any friends, because they do not have any. This does not mean to say that they do not PvP. However, because they do not communicate with anyone, they are no different than an intelligent NPC. Thus, they do not contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game and serve to degrade the entire foundation of this MMORPG.


So I kill you, and that doesn't contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game? I beg to differ. :P
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#16 - 2014-06-03 02:35:13 UTC
Jegrey Dozer wrote:
MMORPG.


What if the Role you Play is a serial killer?

Or a used car salesman?

Or a beggar?

Or a scrap merchant?

etc

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#17 - 2014-06-03 02:36:43 UTC
Adira Nictor wrote:
Jegrey Dozer wrote:
I would imagine that a large portion of the EvE community engages in solo ISK generating activity. Therefore, I do not think that it is appropriate to target anyone engaging in PvE; otherwise, the line is very blurred.

Which pretty much leaves only PvP.

So my definition of a solo player is someone who does not engage in PvP combat with any friends, because they do not have any. This does not mean to say that they do not PvP. However, because they do not communicate with anyone, they are no different than an intelligent NPC. Thus, they do not contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game and serve to degrade the entire foundation of this MMORPG.


So I kill you, and that doesn't contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game? I beg to differ. :P


I too have a differing opinion on this matter, for when I recieve hate mail from those that I have relieved of there ship(s) all by my lonesome, it becomes a very social matter. Also implying solo pvpers have no friends is outright foolish.
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2014-06-03 02:38:30 UTC
Dun'Gal wrote:
Adira Nictor wrote:
Jegrey Dozer wrote:
I would imagine that a large portion of the EvE community engages in solo ISK generating activity. Therefore, I do not think that it is appropriate to target anyone engaging in PvE; otherwise, the line is very blurred.

Which pretty much leaves only PvP.

So my definition of a solo player is someone who does not engage in PvP combat with any friends, because they do not have any. This does not mean to say that they do not PvP. However, because they do not communicate with anyone, they are no different than an intelligent NPC. Thus, they do not contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game and serve to degrade the entire foundation of this MMORPG.


So I kill you, and that doesn't contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game? I beg to differ. :P


I too have a differing opinion on this matter, for when I recieve hate mail from those that I have relieved of there ship(s) all by my lonesome, it becomes a very social matter. Also implying solo pvpers have no friends is outright foolish.


Quite right, we should be friends, or kill each other, which ever happens first.
Jegrey Dozer
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-06-03 02:42:11 UTC
Adira Nictor wrote:

So I kill you, and that doesn't contribute to the dynamic social structure of the game? I beg to differ. :P



Maybe if I whined to friends/corp-mates about dying and we ganged up on the 'solo player,' then they contributed something social. But that's an indirect relationship. The 'solo player' is not being social.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#20 - 2014-06-03 02:42:21 UTC
Saisin wrote:
A solo player chooses to not join player's controlled entities, and build their own in-game income without relying on others or paying taxes to any players' controlled entity.

Solo players have no instantaneous access to alliances or corp's intel.
The nature of the game push them to have a few alts for scouting, and possibly multiboxing multiple accounts.
They are looking for challenges they estimate they can survive with their existing assets, putting their own skins and assets on the line in an environment that is more favorable to bigger groups. They are probably a little paranoid as well as liking tough challenges.

They most likely fall under the profiles of Freedom Fighters or Bounty Hunters established by CCP.
They are still interacting with the other players as needed to fulfill the goals they have established for themselves in Eve Online.



I disagree, a bounty hunter or freedom fighter interacts with other players. In order to be a bounty hunter you have to activly look for bounties, this is player interaction. A pure solo player plays with no one, ignores everyone, and is in npc corps. They don;t activity pvp or participant in anyway with anyone else. I don;t think they tend to have alts as they usually leave by then

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