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Active and passive SP would be good for EvE

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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#1 - 2014-06-02 23:23:54 UTC
There should be SP rewards for taking action in EvE. As the isk faucets continue to get drawn down there needs to be other rewards for actually participating in EvE. The SP gained in this way could be distributed at the players discretion.

It will also give new players a way to "catch up", rewarding actual skill, not just time subscribed.

It also has the potential of increasing Plex sales. As players advance they will still need to buy skill books. Accelerated advancement would put SP gain way ahead of isk gain giving a players a choice of grinding to their new shiny or just shelling out the RL currency of their choice.

Discuss if you would like.
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2014-06-02 23:28:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
WTB: Flame retardant suit.

Also, why do you want to break eve?

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Radelix Cisko
JUMP DRIVE ACTIVE
#3 - 2014-06-02 23:30:58 UTC
All your questions can be handled here my child.

Despite my posting prowess I really am terrible at this game
Solecist Project
#4 - 2014-06-02 23:32:30 UTC
Wow, this is so new and original.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2014-06-02 23:41:47 UTC
4 PLEX for 1 months of Premium Account!

200% Passive SP gain

200% RP gain per battle

150% Stamina increase

+20000 golden tickets (premium currency)

Access to Premium Account only missions with unique loot!

/nope.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-06-02 23:43:32 UTC
... can hear the screaming now: "CCP, how many SP do I get for ganking a freighter ?"

It goes downhill from there, rapidly, as all the special snowflakes whine about why they should get special SP bonuses for all kinds of wildass kinds of "Active" game play.

Roll

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
stoicfaux
#7 - 2014-06-02 23:56:28 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
There should be SP rewards for taking action in EvE. As the isk faucets continue to get drawn down there needs to be other rewards for actually participating in EvE. The SP gained in this way could be distributed at the players discretion.

It will also give new players a way to "catch up", rewarding actual skill, not just time subscribed.

It also has the potential of increasing Plex sales. As players advance they will still need to buy skill books. Accelerated advancement would put SP gain way ahead of isk gain giving a players a choice of grinding to their new shiny or just shelling out the RL currency of their choice.

Discuss if you would like.

Use the isk to buy a character with the SP you want from the Character Bazaar.[1]

[1] In no way should that statement be considered as original.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
CraftyCroc
Fraternity Alliance Please Ignore
#8 - 2014-06-02 23:58:40 UTC
I vote we go for it.
Zol Interbottom
Blimp Requisition Services
#9 - 2014-06-02 23:58:54 UTC
Buy a character if you want to "get ahead".



Welcome to EVE, where skills are a joke and your fits don't matter.

"If you're quitting for the 3rd time you clearly ain't quitting" - Chribba
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#10 - 2014-06-03 00:03:42 UTC
#1 Wrong forum.

#2 Flame baiting.

#3 No way in hell.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Hevymetal
POT Corp
#11 - 2014-06-03 00:04:11 UTC
Is ship spinning in the station considered "Active"?

My limited Dust experience from a ways back I remember sleeping on the dropship or hiding under a tree during a imssion and doing nothing was considered "active" for the distrobution of SP. LOL
Winchester Steele
#12 - 2014-06-03 00:09:01 UTC
Great Idea!!! We could put NPC's everywhere with little exclamation marks over their heads to let us know they have some "active SP" for us. They could have us do fun things like collect 25 fedo's or kill 10 gnoll..er.. Guristas. Ugh


Op should have titled his thread:

"I hate Eve and this is my idea to kill it as quickly as possible."

Ordinarily I would take the time to refer your post to the correct subforum (F&I), but in this case I am going to go ahead and tell you to trashbin it and hope the community forgives you for thinking such bad thoughts.

...

Xavier Higdon
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-06-03 00:17:48 UTC
EvE already has active and passive SP. You can actively gain SP while passively AFK cloaking NC. Or you can passively gain SP while actively shooting me in Providence. There doesn't need to be solutions for non-existent problems.
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
#14 - 2014-06-03 00:23:54 UTC
Next expansion. EVE: New Game Experience!



*runs away*

That awkward moment at the Gentlemen's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money....
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2014-06-03 00:41:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Adira Nictor
Not a new idea, not even close, little searching found 8 topics like yours in less then 2 min.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=347213

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4275225#post4275225

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4113542#post4113542

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3970235#post3970235

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3507686#post3507686

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1257257#post1257257

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=312880

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=255195


If you look at them, you can see that all of them, much like you, didn't search to see if the topic has come up before.

They also didn't consider how this would break the game, and had tons of people tell them why it would.

I'll just say no thanks, and let the threads speak for themselves as to why its a bad idea.


EDIT:

OH SNAP!, I forgot to say F&I forums are that way --->
Dominus Tempus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-06-03 00:41:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Dominus Tempus
People will rage and cry if you change their precious Eve, even though a slight SP gain modifier for playing the game would change things for the better.

Eve Offline - 2014.
D20 Rollings
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-06-03 00:42:41 UTC
Oh wow! Another pokemon thread. You also caught them all.

Yeah, logging in versus skill queueing shouldn't offer any rewards.

P

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...  Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those... moments... will be lost in time, like  tears... in... rain. Time... to die...
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2014-06-03 00:44:31 UTC
Dominus Tempus wrote:
People will rage and cry if you change their precious Eve, even though a slight SP gain modifier for playing the game would change things for the better.



It sure would, I could afk mine all day to gain mining sp, then I could use 2 passive shield tank drakes on alts with hobgobs to improve my drone skills, and when im done with that, small lasers in perma tanked BSs to grind gunnery. Sounds like a great system that allows me to game the system to my advantage.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-06-03 00:48:59 UTC
Well, let's just get this "Passive" thing working as it should... go for the new "gold standard" parity of 1 sp for every ISK that passes through your wallet.

Obvious and somewhat hilarious abuses and exploits aside... everyone who comes into the game should be fully skilled and flying a Titan in, oh, 3 days. P


Roll


"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
Dominus Tempus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-06-03 00:52:42 UTC
Adira Nictor wrote:
Dominus Tempus wrote:
People will rage and cry if you change their precious Eve, even though a slight SP gain modifier for playing the game would change things for the better.



It sure would, I could afk mine all day to gain mining sp, then I could use 2 passive shield tank drakes on alts with hobgobs to improve my drone skills, and when im done with that, small lasers in perma tanked BSs to grind gunnery. Sounds like a great system that allows me to game the system to my advantage.

What an asinine post. If only your comments were as robust as your assumptions.

Obviously it wouldn't be as simple as having SP handed to you for logging in, and it wouldn't be extremely different than it is now.

I'm not defending the integrity of this thread - don't get me wrong. I'm pretty sure this thread was just like the many that came before it with equal or less thought involved.
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