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Dev Blog: The New Eden Store

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CCP Xhagen
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#21 - 2014-06-02 17:37:18 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
CCP Xhagen wrote:
Commissar Kate wrote:
When can I have access to other races clothes? I would really love to see some gallente clothes made available for Caldari pilots.

If you are referring to the clothes available only to specific races in the character creator then that is a very good idea. I'll check if we can explore that further.


This would be very much appreciated. I know more than a few people who'd love to have access to cross-race clothing.

Also, the blog notes 'new tattoos,' but lists the existing Prototype and Wreckage tattoos. Are these new-for-general-consumption, or were those placeholders for actual new tattoo designs?

I'm hoping the latter. :P

These are new-for-general-consumption.

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#22 - 2014-06-02 17:42:31 UTC
dang i was hopeing the 3 tpyes of sleeve tatoos would be exclusive for the people who bought the collectors edition
CCP Legion
#23 - 2014-06-02 17:44:59 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
I glad you are expanding it. The only odd thing to be is combining the Aurum from all my pilots. Why should a bunch of pilots, some of whom may not have ever seen each other or interacted with each other, share wealth?


The idea here is that it is you as a person owning the account who has the wealth. You can then choose to give goodies to your characters. This division will become clearer once we add account wide services to the store that affect the account and not the characters. it is not the characters buying these things, but you as a real life person.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#24 - 2014-06-02 18:00:02 UTC
CCP Legion wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
I glad you are expanding it. The only odd thing to be is combining the Aurum from all my pilots. Why should a bunch of pilots, some of whom may not have ever seen each other or interacted with each other, share wealth?


The idea here is that it is you as a person owning the account who has the wealth. You can then choose to give goodies to your characters. This division will become clearer once we add account wide services to the store that affect the account and not the characters. it is not the characters buying these things, but you as a real life person.


Vincent; think of it this way. Aurum is a CCP currency, not a New Eden currency. If you plex your account or the like, explaining it in RP requires a bit more, uh, creativity. ;) When I plexed for a carrier just after I'd started back up, I handwaved it in RP terms as a 'gift' from a minor official in a certain faction.

Legion; quick question. Is there any chance of getting female counterparts to certain male clothing items?

Namely, there's a limited edition Ishukone dress shirt for male avatars. There's no counterpart for females. While I wouldn't want to detract from the value of the male shirts by causing them to be rereleased, it'd be awesome if there were a way to get the female equivalent, or else redeem/swap the male shirt for a female shirt.

Pretty please?

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Emiko P'eng
#25 - 2014-06-02 18:03:26 UTC
CCP Legion wrote:
The idea here is that it is you as a person owning the account who has the wealth. You can then choose to give goodies to your characters. This division will become clearer once we add account wide services to the store that affect the account and not the characters. it is not the characters buying these things, but you as a real life person.
Humm!

Account wide services?

While an extension of the plex for multiple character training would not be to bad.

But based on other games!

This better not include all character accelerated SP learning bonuses or say the ability to have an all character account wide 'station inventory'!

The later would really upset gankers and pirates as you could shift stuff from one end of the EVE Universe without it ever having to leave a station!
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#26 - 2014-06-02 18:25:15 UTC
Wow, this is looking fantastic. Thanks guys for the work put into this (and the products in the NES!). Big smile

May I just mention, while I'm here, something that may not be directly in your area but is very related to this ...

Remember a while ago when you changed the creator to allow characters to wear a mid/outer layer top without an inner-layer? What do you think the chances are of doing something similar for bottoms/pants? I'm asking because these new tops coming in the expansion (and many of the existing ones), the mid/outer layer ones, would double wonderfully as dresses but they can only be worn when a pant-layer is also worn. Straight

Please .... pretty, pretty please fiddle with the layering rules again so we can use these new tops as dresses as well? Smile

This would add an enormous amount of versatility to the wardrobe selection you already have without actually having to go and produce specific new items.

Anyway thanks guys, really excited for this coming expansion. Cool

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Seismic Stan
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#27 - 2014-06-02 18:25:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Seismic Stan
I've played with the New Eden Store a little on Singularity and it is far more attractive and tempting than the previous iteration. The layout is clean and uncluttered. I understand why other UI elements are removed - I'm sure you don't want folk backing out of a purchase because hostiles entered system. ;)

The individual items are large enough to be seen with some clarity, but it feels counter-intuitive to not be able to interact with them in the same manner we're used to in every other aspect of EVE. I get that it's already been explained that it's a feature that's slated for the future...

CCP Xhagen wrote:
In this first release we decided against the 3D preview. We will be looking into adding that at a later date.

...which is good to hear because I'd be disinclined to purchase anything that the vendor wouldn't let me examine beforehand.

Was the decision to launch without 3D item browsing due to technical or man-hour limitations (as opposed to a marketing decision)? I note that the store items can be viewed by exiting the store and doing an item search in the standard EVE UI, so we can give the skins a more thorough examination before shelling out, but that's laborious.

I'm really glad that the early trials must've gained enough traction for this to be seen as a worthwhile pursuit as the store's success presumably greenlights future ship customisation functionality as showcased at Fanfest 2014.

I look forward to being able to attach searchlights and Reaver-like smoke-trails to my exhaust.
CCP Legion
#28 - 2014-06-02 18:27:39 UTC
Emiko P'eng wrote:

Account wide services?


We're looking at stuff like offering multiple character training and character re-sculpt through the store. Then possibly things like race, bloodline and gender change. We are looking into what else we could offer and how they would work, but worry not, there will be no 'gold ammo' :)

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Nolan Kotulan
Nova Tabula Rasa
#29 - 2014-06-02 18:44:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Nolan Kotulan
CCP Legion wrote:
We're looking at stuff like offering multiple character training and character re-sculpt through the store.
Then possibly things like race, bloodline and gender change. [...]
Am I the only one to think that this is a very odd and bad idea?
I think some things like these should remain unchangeable...

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#30 - 2014-06-02 18:55:21 UTC
Nolan Kotulan wrote:
CCP Legion wrote:
We're looking at stuff like offering multiple character training and character re-sculpt through the store.
Then possibly things like race, bloodline and gender change. [...]
Am I the only one to think that this is a very odd and bad idea?
I think some things like these should remain unchangeable...



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New Eden Tank Testing Services
#31 - 2014-06-02 18:56:04 UTC
Skins are far too expensive for PvP, especially for the smaller hulls. Why not price them such that they are a high volume item for mass consumption? They are purely novelty for me at the moment and nowhere near worth the price.

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#32 - 2014-06-02 18:58:29 UTC
CCP Legion wrote:
Emiko P'eng wrote:

Account wide services?


We're looking at stuff like offering multiple character training and character re-sculpt through the store. Then possibly things like race, bloodline and gender change. We are looking into what else we could offer and how they would work, but worry not, there will be no 'gold ammo' :)


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#33 - 2014-06-02 18:59:54 UTC
Nolan Kotulan wrote:
CCP Legion wrote:
We're looking at stuff like offering multiple character training and character re-sculpt through the store.
Then possibly things like race, bloodline and gender change. [...]
Am I the only one to think that this is a very odd and bad idea?
I think some things like these should remain unchangeable...


They already completely changed the look of some bloodlines when the new character creator was added. So I don't see any problems with bloodline changes.

However gender changes seem abit odd.

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Telorian Shoran
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Caldari State
#34 - 2014-06-02 19:17:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Telorian Shoran
CCP Xhagen wrote:
Lair Osen wrote:
1 Can you still Convert AUR into PLEX?


1. Yes



how do we convert AUR into PLEX?

I only see PLEX to AUR options or is that an option only in the ingame new eden store when kronos is live?
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#35 - 2014-06-02 19:20:29 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
PLEAAAAAAAAAASE! I promise I will be a good girl. And I will love you more than I love Karkur. Big smile

I'll see your love, and quadruple it if I can finally show off a little leg instead of just arms, belly or uhgg ... 'cleavage'.

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#36 - 2014-06-02 19:20:58 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Nolan Kotulan wrote:
CCP Legion wrote:
We're looking at stuff like offering multiple character training and character re-sculpt through the store.
Then possibly things like race, bloodline and gender change. [...]
Am I the only one to think that this is a very odd and bad idea?
I think some things like these should remain unchangeable...



There's this guy, called The Broker, who wants a word with you...


Maybe first they should remove the restrictions on racial clothing. You could swap race and sex but if you're a caldari you couldn't put Gallente jackets? Erm...

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#37 - 2014-06-02 19:22:53 UTC
Great stuff! Looks like the new approach will make it easier to iterate on new options.

Really hoping that at some point you bring back clothing options from the old character creator. I picked Khanid because of all the cool headwear and collars.
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#38 - 2014-06-02 19:28:06 UTC
Altrue wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Nolan Kotulan wrote:
CCP Legion wrote:
We're looking at stuff like offering multiple character training and character re-sculpt through the store.
Then possibly things like race, bloodline and gender change. [...]
Am I the only one to think that this is a very odd and bad idea?
I think some things like these should remain unchangeable...



There's this guy, called The Broker, who wants a word with you...


Maybe first they should remove the restrictions on racial clothing. You could swap race and sex but if you're a caldari you couldn't put Gallente jackets? Erm...



That would be positively gauche!

Lol

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Erica Dusette
Division 13
#39 - 2014-06-02 19:32:00 UTC
Steve Ronuken, how come I wasn't aware of your enthusiasm for this stuff?

When I canvassed all the CSM candidates pretty much none of them (with maybe one exception) listed avatars/clothing/WiS related stuff as something that interested them at all.

Just had to ask, at the risk of posting somewhat off-topic.

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#40 - 2014-06-02 19:36:37 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
Steve Ronuken, how come I wasn't aware of your enthusiasm for this stuff?

When I canvassed all the CSM candidates pretty much none of them (with maybe one exception) listed avatars/clothing/WiS related stuff as something that interested them at all.

Just had to ask, at the risk of posting somewhat off-topic.



WiS is kinda pointless at the moment. If there was actual content, then it could be worth it Smile

As for avatar stuff, Every so often I just splurge some isk on a plex, and buy things. (The monocle I got free, as a prize)

It's a little pointless, but you could say that about any vanity item. And as I spend a lot of times on the forums, have to look my best Blink

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