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Autopilot to station switched off again?

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Tap This
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#21 - 2011-12-03 18:29:56 UTC
The thing is: The bookmark glows yellow if you chose the station via other means anyway, so it's already connected in some way...

@ Zulu: Rather than "half-arsed" would you prefer me calling it "business as usual"? ;-D - Now I'm trolling... ^^
Luckytania
Bullets of Justice
#22 - 2011-12-03 18:31:02 UTC
CCP Zulu wrote:
CCP Zulu wrote:
Tap This wrote:
So really it's more like the implementation is half-arsed then me doing it wrong? Lol Fair enough...


I think that's a fair point :)


To clarify, I think it's unfair to say it's "half-arsed" but adding the same functionality to locations is something we should add to the backlog. Seeing as how the feature is well received it's prudent to expand on it, don't you think? :)

I'm going to quibble with you a bit on this one, Zulu.

I don't think it at all unfair to call it "half-arsed".

Regardless of where in the UI the command "Set Destination" is invoked it must cause the same behavior.

Allowing commands which have different results depending on where in the UI they are invoked is the path to chaos.

Your response here reflects a code-based perspective rather than a User Experience / use-case view. The later must have a higher priority for quality software development results.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#23 - 2011-12-03 19:11:30 UTC
What if you expanded it to AP to locations in general? not just station locations, like what if it could warp you to a SS? :P

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Psychophantic
#24 - 2011-12-03 19:31:10 UTC
So once again an issue is raised, CCP trolls, is non-committal about fixing it, goes away hoping people will forget about it.
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#25 - 2011-12-03 19:56:57 UTC
Psychophantic wrote:
So once again an issue is raised, CCP trolls, is non-committal about fixing it, goes away hoping people will forget about it.



There was no issue. The guy didnt set up his ap to the station properly. rather than doing it from assets or the market he did it via book marks, which will get you to the system location not the station itself. So everything is working as intended.

And yes autopiloting to bookmarks has not been implemented.

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Mioelnir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2011-12-03 20:00:50 UTC
CCP Zulu wrote:
CCP Zulu wrote:
Tap This wrote:
So really it's more like the implementation is half-arsed then me doing it wrong? Lol Fair enough...


I think that's a fair point :)


To clarify, I think it's unfair to say it's "half-arsed" but adding the same functionality to locations is something we should add to the backlog. Seeing as how the feature is well received it's prudent to expand on it, don't you think? :)


Might also be a good time to clean up the autopilot management code so that future changes to legal autopilot targets etc hit all possible paths instead of just the 85% the developer was aware of Big smile

This reeks like a bad case of copy/paste code duplication.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#27 - 2011-12-03 20:02:12 UTC
So if you go back and refoundation book marks are you going to make it possible so that when you start making planets start orbiting they'd travel with the grid?

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Mioelnir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2011-12-03 20:04:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Mioelnir
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
Psychophantic wrote:
So once again an issue is raised, CCP trolls, is non-committal about fixing it, goes away hoping people will forget about it.

which will get you to the system location not the station itself.


Bookmarks differentiate between type solar system and type station.
If you bookmark a station, it gets a bookmark of type station.

That's the reason you can dock via bookmarks.
Tap This
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#29 - 2011-12-03 21:11:51 UTC
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
Psychophantic wrote:
So once again an issue is raised, CCP trolls, is non-committal about fixing it, goes away hoping people will forget about it.



There was no issue. The guy didnt set up his ap to the station properly. rather than doing it from assets or the market he did it via book marks, which will get you to the system location not the station itself. So everything is working as intended.

And yes autopiloting to bookmarks has not been implemented.


That's total bullshit... So why can you dock to a station via bookmarks? It's a clear oversight, not me being an idiot... You, on the other hand...
Danica Duan
#30 - 2011-12-03 23:33:35 UTC
Also need a Set Waypoint / Set Destination choice in the right-click menu of the Star Map when showing station info for a system.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#31 - 2011-12-03 23:58:23 UTC
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
There was no issue. The guy didnt set up his ap to the station properly. rather than doing it from assets or the market he did it via book marks, which will get you to the system location not the station itself. So everything is working as intended.

And yes autopiloting to bookmarks has not been implemented.


Autopiloting to mission bookmarks has been implemented: open a mission, add waypoints for the target system and the agent's home station based on links in the mission dialogue, and you'll end up auto piloting back to station.

While "half arsed" may be a little severe, it is fair to say that the feature was not implemented in a manner consistent with the existing handling of bookmarks in the UI elsewhere in the game. I can see the obvious reason for not allowing autopilot waypoints to be set based on arbitrary bookmarks (i.e.: to avoid insta-bookmark spam around stargazes), no doubt the special treatment of station bookmarks is something that was merely overlooked during the sprints to bring us this new feature (which is, incidentally, awesome).
Zleon Leigh
#32 - 2011-12-04 23:24:40 UTC
Did experiment - set to destination on old BM's gives a routing of system only (destination box is not outlined in white). However a new BM linked to a station does give a dock at destination (destination box is outlined in white - look closely). Soooo... old BM's appear to not be compatible - or the implementation was not implemented properly and QA failed (as usual).

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Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2011-12-04 23:39:46 UTC
I want to criclejerk err i mean autopilot through various
bookmarks within the same system,
just so i can do merry-go-round all day long.

Thanks.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#34 - 2011-12-05 00:16:06 UTC
Found this one out after waking up to my freighter sitting on the Perimeter gate, where it had been for ~6hours. Docked, figured out the workaround in ~5min, and continued sleeping my way to fortune in Eve.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#35 - 2011-12-05 00:37:02 UTC
Zleon Leigh wrote:
Did experiment - set to destination on old BM's gives a routing of system only (destination box is not outlined in white). However a new BM linked to a station does give a dock at destination (destination box is outlined in white - look closely). Soooo... old BM's appear to not be compatible - or the implementation was not implemented properly and QA failed (as usual).


I had already bug reported this on the test server.

Since there was a part of the search drop down in People and Places to search for and bookmark stations, it seemed common sense that it should work for a bookmark you create from that interface.

In other words, if you search for a particular station in people and places, right click on the correct station and select "set destination" it will dock you there.

But if you instead simply create a permanent bookmark to add to your collection and later try to have it go there and dock, it does not work.

Now this was on Sisi, so perhaps things have changed.

Anyway, as I said, I bug reported it as it seemed obvious that it "should" work with any bookmark to a station.

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Zleon Leigh
#36 - 2011-12-05 06:22:14 UTC
Customer QA found the problem, CCP once again failed to heed. SNAFU

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non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#37 - 2011-12-05 06:42:48 UTC  |  Edited by: non judgement
I'm still waiting for Autopilot that warps to a POS bookmark.

Of course the best autopilot would be if it could use jump bridges. Would be great if the autopilot could use titan and blackop bridges. I don't see why this should be a problem. Just a few lines added to the code, amirite?

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Tap This
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#38 - 2011-12-07 16:58:09 UTC
Wow, CCP fixed it! That was pretty quick!

Thanks CCP!
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
#39 - 2011-12-07 17:14:12 UTC
In case the auto-pilot does not work again, should I land in the station full flaps down or should I just go in with a fast speed landing? And where is the landing gear lever on a Domi again?
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#40 - 2011-12-07 17:21:37 UTC
all this because people are too lazy to right click and dock lmao Roll
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