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At last! A fair, balanced debate on Climate Change!
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Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-06-01 12:14:11 UTC
This is what a debate on Climate Change should look like

This just hit my mail inbox. It's quite clever, if you ask me, and also is, you know, true.Blink

Q: Should we be worried? A: Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-06-01 14:08:15 UTC
honestly.

Climate change is happening, yes. We have a hand on it, yes.


But, I'm more on the side that we are making it happening faster, not the sole reason why it happens.

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#3 - 2014-06-01 14:50:50 UTC
well as im not a parent and have no intention of being or even a grand parent then my answer to this question is fuk em !

and to answer the question of climate change ..the climate allways bloody changes ..has been since the earth was formed and will still do long after we as humans will have died out .
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#4 - 2014-06-01 17:38:12 UTC
jason hill wrote:
well as im not a parent and have no intention of being or even a grand parent then my answer to this question is fuk em !

and to answer the question of climate change ..the climate allways bloody changes ..has been since the earth was formed and will still do long after we as humans will have died out .


uh huh. but why does it happen? look at the history.

it happens when co2 increases or decreases. that can happen for a lot of reasons. in the past it happened because of various natural causes. like volcanism. changing habitats. why is it happening now? ...where's all the co2 coming from? us. industry. fossil fuel consumption. deforestation. that last one will be the real killer. because forests and plant life in general use c02. so we are removing the things that breathe co2 and put out oxygen...and building more industry creating more co2.

*"duh" headsmack*
jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#5 - 2014-06-01 18:12:36 UTC
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
jason hill wrote:
well as im not a parent and have no intention of being or even a grand parent then my answer to this question is fuk em !

and to answer the question of climate change ..the climate allways bloody changes ..has been since the earth was formed and will still do long after we as humans will have died out .


uh huh. but why does it happen? look at the history.

it happens when co2 increases or decreases. that can happen for a lot of reasons. in the past it happened because of various natural causes. like volcanism. changing habitats. why is it happening now? ...where's all the co2 coming from? us. industry. fossil fuel consumption. deforestation. that last one will be the real killer. because forests and plant life in general use c02. so we are removing the things that breathe co2 and put out oxygen...and building more industry creating more co2.

*"duh" headsmack*


absaloute tosh ! worst statement ever ! .... in the middle ages here in the
UK we used to grow grapes ...yes here in the UK we had vinyards ... also in the 18th century our elders used to ice skate on the river thames ........WHICH WAS WELL BEFORE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION !!!!


facts young padwan !! get your facts RIGHT ! before jumping on the bandwagon !

im not suggesting we arnt assisting ...but FFS ! cows fart more c02 than we produce ...shall we kill all of them aswell ....

"duh!" headbutt to the fkn face for uninformed stupid post !
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2014-06-01 18:14:11 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
honestly.

Climate change is happening, yes. We have a hand on it, yes.


But, I'm more on the side that we are making it happening faster, not the sole reason why it happens.


It used to be natural, now its just us being stupidWhat?

Welcome to the Anthropocene age.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2014-06-01 18:21:47 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
jason hill wrote:


absaloute tosh ! worst statement ever ! .... in the middle ages here in the
UK we used to grow grapes ...yes here in the UK we had vinyards ... also in the 18th century our elders used to ice skate on the river thames ........WHICH WAS WELL BEFORE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION !!!!


facts young padwan !! get your facts RIGHT ! before jumping on the bandwagon !

im not suggesting we arnt assisting ...but FFS ! cows fart more c02 than we produce ...shall we kill all of them aswell ....

"duh!" headbutt to the fkn face for uninformed stupid post !

Fun fact!

We grew grapes and made wine when part of the Roman empire. Infact we made wine until a cultural change and a love for Mead in the dark ages, it wasn't picked up again in the uk until the mid 20th century due to a lack of knowledge even though we could grow them.

Fun fact 2!

It is now widely believed that a mild ice age was averted around 7000bc due to the spread of farming.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#8 - 2014-06-01 18:30:33 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
jason hill wrote:


absaloute tosh ! worst statement ever ! .... in the middle ages here in the
UK we used to grow grapes ...yes here in the UK we had vinyards ... also in the 18th century our elders used to ice skate on the river thames ........WHICH WAS WELL BEFORE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION !!!!


facts young padwan !! get your facts RIGHT ! before jumping on the bandwagon !

im not suggesting we arnt assisting ...but FFS ! cows fart more c02 than we produce ...shall we kill all of them aswell ....

"duh!" headbutt to the fkn face for uninformed stupid post !

Fun fact!

We grew grapes and made wine when part of the Roman empire. Infact we made wine until a cultural change and a love for Mead in the dark ages, it wasn't picked up again in the uk until the mid 20th century due to a lack of knowledge even though we could grow them.

Fun fact 2!

It is now widely believed that a mild ice age was averted around 7000bc due to the spread of farming.

sauce?
I believe you im just qurious

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-06-01 18:35:02 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
honestly.

Climate change is happening, yes. We have a hand on it, yes.


But, I'm more on the side that we are making it happening faster, not the sole reason why it happens.


It used to be natural, now its just us being stupidWhat?

Welcome to the Anthropocene age.

we're just like that, I guess.

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#10 - 2014-06-01 18:47:17 UTC
"What if the climate change is one big hoax and we are just creating a better world for nothing"

- Some comic I once came across.

❤️️💛💚💙💜
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#11 - 2014-06-01 18:48:18 UTC
jason hill wrote:
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
jason hill wrote:
well as im not a parent and have no intention of being or even a grand parent then my answer to this question is fuk em !

and to answer the question of climate change ..the climate allways bloody changes ..has been since the earth was formed and will still do long after we as humans will have died out .


uh huh. but why does it happen? look at the history.

it happens when co2 increases or decreases. that can happen for a lot of reasons. in the past it happened because of various natural causes. like volcanism. changing habitats. why is it happening now? ...where's all the co2 coming from? us. industry. fossil fuel consumption. deforestation. that last one will be the real killer. because forests and plant life in general use c02. so we are removing the things that breathe co2 and put out oxygen...and building more industry creating more co2.

*"duh" headsmack*


absaloute tosh ! worst statement ever ! .... in the middle ages here in the
UK we used to grow grapes ...yes here in the UK we had vinyards ... also in the 18th century our elders used to ice skate on the river thames ........WHICH WAS WELL BEFORE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION !!!!


facts young padwan !! get your facts RIGHT ! before jumping on the bandwagon !

im not suggesting we arnt assisting ...but FFS ! cows fart more c02 than we produce ...shall we kill all of them aswell ....

"duh!" headbutt to the fkn face for uninformed stupid post !


Shocked ooookaaay.

*backs away*

so, i'll guess i'll just go over here and be wrong. with like 97% of climatologists. don't mind us.

and by the way, cows are farming, which makes them part of industry.
digitalwanderer
DW inc
#12 - 2014-06-01 18:52:28 UTC
Now imagine when we'll be 10 billion within the next 30 years, or even 20 billion before the end of this century, and needing way more farmland to grown food, knocking down a lot more trees that absorb C02 and produce the oxygen we need to breathe, a lot more room for houses and services in general( schools, hospitals and the like), create a lot more jobs which further adds to the pollution issue, and transportation to get from point A to point B and of course with medical knowledge improving, people live longer lives.


So those young enough and thinking it's a future generation's problem and not mine might be in for a rude awakening...Twisted
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-06-01 19:02:41 UTC
jason hill wrote:

facts young padwan !! get your facts RIGHT ! before jumping on the bandwagon !

im not suggesting we arnt assisting ...but FFS ! cows fart more c02 than we produce ...shall we kill all of them aswell ....

"duh!" headbutt to the fkn face for uninformed stupid post !



doesn't matter who produces more or less. **** needs to be done.

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2014-06-01 19:07:21 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:

sauce?
I believe you im just qurious


Education, I was aiming to get into Geology.

There are a large number of BBC science programmes from Professor Iain Stewart that go into detail on the subject. There are also some Horizon documentaries that get into some good detail and there might be a Royal Institute Christmas Lecture on the subject but I'm not sure on that one.

The biggest problem with Climate change is that the general public has very little easy to digest info on the subject and the news sites from both sides of the camp are terrible at reporting the subject. I'm one of those rare people that enjoy reading scientific papersStraight

Here's a good one to watch, The Climate Wars. Its a history of the climate change debate.

Episode 1

Episode 2

Episode 3
Kurfin
Kippers and Jam Developments
#15 - 2014-06-01 19:52:35 UTC
It's probably too late to do anything about it. To reduce CO2 emissions enough would almost certainly destroy the global economy, so no one is going to do it. We are just going to have to learn to adapt to a warmer planet with higher sea levels, unless we can pull off one of the more outlandish ideas, like a sticking a solar shade up in to space.

Of course one of the big problems that doesn't get mentioned much, too many people. Politically a trick one to approach though.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#16 - 2014-06-01 20:25:23 UTC
Kurfin wrote:


Of course one of the big problems that doesn't get mentioned much, too many people. Politically a trick one to approach though.



Historically, there have always been men willing to dispose of even as many as in the millions.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#17 - 2014-06-01 20:26:02 UTC
Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2014-06-01 20:29:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Matilda Cecilia Fock
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Saving the Planet?Lol


Fighting back climate change is not about saving the planet. It's just about saving our sorry asses.

Q: Should we be worried? A: Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#19 - 2014-06-01 20:44:59 UTC
Matilda Cecilia Fock wrote:
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Saving the Planet?Lol


Fighting back climate change is not about saving the planet. It's just about saving our sorry asses.


You can not save the humanity from itself.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-06-01 20:51:19 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Matilda Cecilia Fock wrote:
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Saving the Planet?Lol


Fighting back climate change is not about saving the planet. It's just about saving our sorry asses.


You can not save the humanity from itself.


Of course. But we're here because of all the ones who fought the good fight.

Q: Should we be worried? A: Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves.
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