Player Features and Ideas Discussion

NATURAL TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENTS will completely Eliminate Need for Rebalance.

When we spend a lot of time and ISK building ships to fit a specific function, it's really anoying to have it "re-balanced" so all the effort we put into gets wasted. It's like somebody came to your house and took out the air conditioning on your new car, because it wasn't fair to other people that don't have air conditioning. Why did you spend the money on that car? It takes away from your enjoyment.

We customize our ships because it makes it more fun for each of us, and a "re-balance" takes that away. I have a plan where the re-balance can be completely eliminated, so the players keep there custom advantage, and other players that WANT them re-balanced will have a way to counter it. In addition, the in game economy will become more active, and breath new life into it, and CCP will benefit from additional real monies from these changes (use your imagination for the many ways it will improve that).

This will breath new life into the game, and give a significant boost to Markets, Manufacturing, Trade, etc.

Here is how it works
================

In the real world, if you want better features in your car, you simply buy a newer model. Some people really like to keep the old models working, and that creates a whole new market trade set. All cars eventually get outclassed by newer models.

The same thing should happen in EVE. Simply have a Mark I, Mark II, Mark III, Mark IV, etc. etc. or they can be given a year number, with the last two digits matching the real world year.

That way, I can keep my ship and modules and get the bonuses they originally provided at the time I fitted them. Programaticly, the modules once fitted can simply store the numbers in the ship itself as it's attributes, so they don't change on the fly just because a module gets changed.

For other players that don't think my fit is fair and gives me an unfair advantage, they can just get the newer model when it comes out.

EXAMPLE 1 - No Limits

---

So there is a Mark I covert Ops Cloaking Device, and some players think there should be a way to detect it, and some say they should be able to remain cloaked. So a newer modle of ship may be able to use newer sensors that will in effect eliminate the effectiveness of the Covert ops Cloaking Device against players with the newer sensor. But then later on, there is a Mark II version of the Covert Ops Cloaking device, which will again render the ship completely hidden.

Some players won't care about cloaking technology so will ignore the sensor upgrades, and/or the sensor upgrades.

This process can be repeated indefinitely. It does not mess up the fits and originally planned function of player's ships, it simply means technology improves all the time.

EXAMPLE 2 - Existing Ingame re-balance as an example.

---

In Kronos, the Freighters are being given low slots. These would simply exist on the newer model of ship if somebody decided to buy the latest model.

Mark II blockade runners would have the extra high slot (and other changes), again, if the player decides to purchase that one. if not, then they can keep the one they have.

SUMMARY
=========

When a players seems to have a great advantage over other players, because he has a great ship and fit, it does not take long for that technology to get outdated and soon that player no longer has the advantage.

This concludes my proposal. Please provide any suggestions, comments or questions.

The T3 can have a great tank, great damage, but not at the same time. They are very specialized ships designed to be modified for specialized roles. I have one built for high speed, but has almost no tank or firepower. I have another that is designed to get away, but almost no firepower or tank, or speed.

Even in the case you cited, new technology for them does not need to come out every year. It can skip a year or so. Even the over powered stuff will quickly fall back into place.

You misunderstood.

I have a Mark I Loki that has a huge tank. So powerful in fact that I can stand toe to toe against 3 PVP battleships, sometimes 4. Many view this as overpowered. I'm not saying the Mark II Loki would have less abilities, I'm saying a Mark II Battleship will have more, and so my Mark I Loki would be less capable against them.

Not all items need to increase technology at the same rate. Mark 3 battleships may come out before a Mark 2 Loki.

I had a really great computer 9 years ago, but by today's standards, it falls short. My computer was not downgraded, everybody else just got newer and more capable ones.

I understand your feelings on it. My proposal matches how it works in the real world, and that's what I was aiming for.

The problem with a nerf, is not everybody agrees on it. If you think somethings is overpowered, another person thinks it's not.

Let me expand on it a little more.

Things do not get "buffed" at all. If you buy a Mark 1 battleship, you are stuck with a mark 1 battleship until it gets destroyed in 1 year or 10 years. There will be people buying a Mark 4 Maelstrom, at the same time other people are still flying a Mark 1 Maelstrom. They might look the same, but a head to head match will likely prove otherwise, and the Mark 4 newer player will have a more equal chance against the Mark 1 older player. Don't forget, the modules will also change in this way, not just the ships.

You can match a 1998 Ford F150 against a 2014 Ford F150 in a tug of war, or demolition derby, or simply hauling a lot of stuff on a long trip. Imagine how they would fair against each other.

2 words for you: Power Creep
It's bad, m'kay, the devs happen to agree on it and it makes this idea a bad idea.

I'm referencing some old problems two of which are from back before RMR. This isn't my only or first account.

So you want player generated power creep rather than DEV generated power creep.

The power creep is an illusion. There is none.

That's the point. ^^