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derp glurp
NonFungible
#1 - 2014-06-01 15:55:59 UTC
I have googled it and asked on the in-game help channel but there doesn't seem to be any reference to as to how to position scan probes by dragging the side of the cube instead of the arrows. I am thoroughly familiar with how to scan down sigs/ships and I am not asking how to "scan". I don't need a basic tutorial.

What I would like to know is how to position a scan probe by dragging the SIDE of the cube, not the arrow. Im sure this feature does not exist to simply frustrate players who accidentally drag the side of the cube instead of the arrow.

If there is anyone in the EVE community who knows and can either explain this mechanic or direct me to a reference that does I would sincerely appreciate it. thanks <3
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-06-01 15:59:49 UTC
whereas the arrow only drags the probe (or probes) along one axis, dragging the surface will move the drones along the plane, i.e. in two directions at the same time. if you have eve used google maps on a smartphone, you will understand what i mean.

I should buy an Ishtar.
derp glurp
NonFungible
#3 - 2014-06-01 16:15:29 UTC
I love how I can find in depth explanations on subjects like transversal velocity and mathematical equations on skill training that would melt most peoples brains, but everything concerning this one mechanic which I truly believe is mysteriously simple is at its best extremely vague.

What?
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
#4 - 2014-06-01 21:44:19 UTC
Daniel Plain explained it pretty well. The arrow drags the probe along a single axis. The side of the cube drags them a long a plain (ie, X axis and Y axis, but not z axis)

That awkward moment at the Gentlemen's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money....
derp glurp
NonFungible
#5 - 2014-06-01 23:23:01 UTC  |  Edited by: derp glurp
ohhh now I get it. so I grab the side of the cube and drag into some remote area that I cant seem to get back to its original position. makes perfect sense now. thanks for leaving out the how part. Is there anywhere on the internet that demonstrates this profound concept?

thanks in advance!

edit: and by the way this is what I have found quoted from this page http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Scanning_%26_Probing

"The probe-cube can be clicked and dragged. If you grab the top or bottom, they slide on a horizontal plane, if you grab the sides of the cube, they slide on a vertical plane. This is why every so often you grab the cube and it slides away to somewhere weird- you accidentally grabbed the side of the cube instead of the top.

To reset the formation press either of the two preconfigured probe-patterns to reset both scan-range and position. This does not however reset probe constellation position in space."

anyone else? and don't tell me google maps...
Hoshi
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#6 - 2014-06-01 23:56:17 UTC
What is there to say other than what that text already tell you? If you grab a side you will move the probe in a plane aligned with the side of the box you grabbed.

If you grab the top that means the horizontal plane. A side means a vertical plane facing whatever side you grabbed.

"Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason."
derp glurp
NonFungible
#7 - 2014-06-02 00:00:54 UTC
Hoshi wrote:
What is there to say other than what that text already tell you? If you grab a side you will move the probe in a plane aligned with the side of the box you grabbed.

If you grab the top that means the horizontal plane. A side means a vertical plane facing whatever side you grabbed.


lol
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-06-02 00:10:12 UTC
If you accidentally grab the wrong side and move your mouse, you might lose track of where your probe shot off to. The key is to not let go of your mouse button, dont let up. You're still holding the probe, if you never released your mouse button. Just keep holding it down and try to jiggle around to get your probe back.

Failing that, just move your camera around until you see the stupid thing.

Failing that, just recall the stupid things and launch them again, and be better at clicking next time.
derp glurp
NonFungible
#9 - 2014-06-02 00:16:24 UTC
Hakaari Inkuran wrote:
If you accidentally grab the wrong side and move your mouse, you might lose track of where your probe shot off to. The key is to not let go of your mouse button, dont let up. You're still holding the probe, if you never released your mouse button. Just keep holding it down and try to jiggle around to get your probe back.

Failing that, just move your camera around until you see the stupid thing.

Failing that, just recall the stupid things and launch them again, and be better at clicking next time.



ok
Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#10 - 2014-06-02 01:05:15 UTC
Protip: derp glurp has no idea what he's talking about and doesn't understand simple explanations, any attempts to help will fall on deaf ears.
derp glurp
NonFungible
#11 - 2014-06-02 02:08:46 UTC  |  Edited by: derp glurp
Dato Koppla wrote:
Protip: derp glurp has no idea what he's talking about and doesn't understand simple explanations, any attempts to help will fall on deaf ears.



quoted from this page http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Scanning_%26_Probing

"The probe-cube can be clicked and dragged. If you grab the top or bottom, they slide on a horizontal plane, if you grab the sides of the cube, they slide on a vertical plane. This is why every so often you grab the cube and it slides away to somewhere weird- you accidentally grabbed the side of the cube instead of the top.

To reset the formation press either of the two preconfigured probe-patterns to reset both scan-range and position. This does not however reset probe constellation position in space."


do better genius...

i.e. a cube has six sides. if I grab the top arrow it goes up. simple concept. if I grab the top side if goes somewhere else and never returns.

ok. now. the question is: how. do. I. utilize. this. mechanic.

and

is. there. anything. on. the. internet. that. demonstrates. the. difference.

try again?
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#12 - 2014-06-02 02:35:03 UTC
Click the top side and don't drag it off your screen, it's that easy.
derp glurp
NonFungible
#13 - 2014-06-02 02:41:12 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Click the top side and don't drag it off your screen, it's that easy.


in other words, just use the arrows.

anyone else?

please address the questions I actually ask. thanks
Chris Winter
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#14 - 2014-06-02 02:48:58 UTC
derp glurp wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Click the top side and don't drag it off your screen, it's that easy.


in other words, just use the arrows.

anyone else?

please address the questions I actually ask. thanks

Maybe you should go try it? Click the top and do small movements to start with.

It works fine, I do it all the time.
derp glurp
NonFungible
#15 - 2014-06-02 03:12:12 UTC  |  Edited by: derp glurp
Chris Winter wrote:
derp glurp wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Click the top side and don't drag it off your screen, it's that easy.


in other words, just use the arrows.

anyone else?

please address the questions I actually ask. thanks

Maybe you should go try it? Click the top and do small movements to start with.

It works fine, I do it all the time.



All I am asking for is a reference that explains and/or demonstrates this game mechanic more thoroughly than EVEUNI WIKI, because i didn't think about actually trying it

but that's cool I will figure it out for myself since nobody can do better than insult my limited intelligence
Chris Winter
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#16 - 2014-06-02 05:04:09 UTC
Youtube?
derp glurp
NonFungible
#17 - 2014-06-02 06:03:07 UTC  |  Edited by: derp glurp
Chris Winter: unless you know a specific link to a youtube video i would rather not sit thru every basic scanning tutorial to not have my question answered. that is why I am asking on the forums.but thanks

im not asking people to search out the answer they don't have. Im going out on a limb and hoping someone already knows

i guess my intial post wasn't specific enough, nor any reply thereafter. my mistake

gg
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-06-02 06:14:23 UTC
I dont think this guy's playing with a full deck.

In order to utilize clicking and dragging the side of the cube to reposition your probe, you must click on the side of the cube and drag. This will reposition your probe.
derp glurp
NonFungible
#19 - 2014-06-02 06:30:47 UTC
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derp glurp
NonFungible
#20 - 2014-06-02 06:50:02 UTC
Hakaari Inkuran wrote:
I dont think this guy's playing with a full deck.

In order to utilize clicking and dragging the side of the cube to reposition your probe, you must click on the side of the cube and drag. This will reposition your probe.


more of the same. insults from people who don't understand what I am asking.


quoted from this page http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Scanning_%26_Probing

"The probe-cube can be clicked and dragged. If you grab the top or bottom, they slide on a horizontal plane, if you grab the sides of the cube, they slide on a vertical plane. This is why every so often you grab the cube and it slides away to somewhere weird- you accidentally grabbed the side of the cube instead of the top.

To reset the formation press either of the two preconfigured probe-patterns to reset both scan-range and position. This does not however reset probe constellation position in space."

x/y axis= horizontal plane, z axis= vertical plane

when I apply certain actions using the directional arrows I get consistent results. This is not as apparent when dragging the side of the cube.
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