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Biggest expected price shifts post-Kronos?

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Governor McMorris
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-05-31 17:02:49 UTC
Hello MD,

I've started this thread so us trade-minded folk can share our predictions for the post-Kronos market.

What are we expecting to happen to drones, ect...? I know we aren't expecting major mineral price changes until Crius.

Good luck!

FOR SALE
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-05-31 21:31:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Plain
...

I should buy an Ishtar.
HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-05-31 22:05:16 UTC  |  Edited by: HeXxploiT
Salvage, particularly T2 and decryptors make a move up. They won't spike to the same degree that they plummeted after Odyssey but probably they will reach 100-400% within 2 months.
Remember many of these dropped by a factor of 10x(1000%) post Odyssey.
Isaac Schwartz
Caldari State Venture Capital
#4 - 2014-05-31 22:24:55 UTC
Governor McMorris wrote:
Hello MD,

I've started this thread so us trade-minded folk can share our predictions for the post-Kronos market.

What are we expecting to happen to drones, ect...? I know we aren't expecting major mineral price changes until Crius.

Good luck!


I predict the inevitable crashing of the non-existent market for shares in Mc Morris Inc
Paul VonBel
VonBel
#5 - 2014-05-31 23:23:10 UTC
Governor McMorris wrote:
Hello MD,

I've started this thread so us trade-minded folk can share our predictions for the post-Kronos market.


Thanks bro,

I was kind of hoping for a place to dump all my secrets into.

Trit will break 10 I think. buy buy buy

Are you a market trader? Do you want to chat with other traders? Then join my ingame chat channel: VonBel Trading
HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-05-31 23:31:36 UTC
Paul VonBel wrote:
Governor McMorris wrote:
Hello MD,

I've started this thread so us trade-minded folk can share our predictions for the post-Kronos market.


Thanks bro,

I was kind of hoping for a place to dump all my secrets into.

Trit will break 10 I think. buy buy buy


If ya actually had a secret you would already own it and wouldn't mind sharing since you would theoretically be early to the table and selling when everyone else is buying.
No?
Paul VonBel
VonBel
#7 - 2014-05-31 23:41:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul VonBel
HeXxploiT wrote:
Paul VonBel wrote:
Governor McMorris wrote:
Hello MD,

I've started this thread so us trade-minded folk can share our predictions for the post-Kronos market.


Thanks bro,

I was kind of hoping for a place to dump all my secrets into.

Trit will break 10 I think. buy buy buy


If ya actually had a secret you would already own it and wouldn't mind sharing since you would theoretically be early to the table and selling when everyone else is buying.
No?


You should probably not bother with trading

EDIT: By secrets, I mean, things I have researched and believe will increase, not some tip off from God himself - DYOR

Are you a market trader? Do you want to chat with other traders? Then join my ingame chat channel: VonBel Trading
okoolos rimmer
Napkin Nation
#8 - 2014-05-31 23:41:42 UTC
CCP dropping loot tables by 25-50% will be overshadowed by the no-scatter mechanic. That will also encourage more people to get back to exploration and will make it much easier and faster. Salvage prices may vary a bit but I doubt they will do so by a large margin.
HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-05-31 23:57:47 UTC
Paul VonBel wrote:
HeXxploiT wrote:
Paul VonBel wrote:
Governor McMorris wrote:
Hello MD,

I've started this thread so us trade-minded folk can share our predictions for the post-Kronos market.


Thanks bro,

I was kind of hoping for a place to dump all my secrets into.

Trit will break 10 I think. buy buy buy


If ya actually had a secret you would already own it and wouldn't mind sharing since you would theoretically be early to the table and selling when everyone else is buying.
No?


You should probably not bother with trading

EDIT: By secrets, I mean, things I have researched and believe will increase, not some tip off from God himself - DYOR


Lol...I daytraded for a living boy...


okoolos rimmer wrote:
CCP dropping loot tables by 25-50% will be overshadowed by the no-scatter mechanic. That will also encourage more people to get back to exploration and will make it much easier and faster. Salvage prices may vary a bit but I doubt they will do so by a large margin.


If there is a 30% increase in exploration you are correct prices changes will be negligible.
I've gambled the increase will not be to such an extent.
Paul VonBel
VonBel
#10 - 2014-05-31 23:59:24 UTC
HeXxploiT wrote:
Paul VonBel wrote:
HeXxploiT wrote:
Paul VonBel wrote:
Governor McMorris wrote:
Hello MD,

I've started this thread so us trade-minded folk can share our predictions for the post-Kronos market.


Thanks bro,

I was kind of hoping for a place to dump all my secrets into.

Trit will break 10 I think. buy buy buy


If ya actually had a secret you would already own it and wouldn't mind sharing since you would theoretically be early to the table and selling when everyone else is buying.
No?


You should probably not bother with trading

EDIT: By secrets, I mean, things I have researched and believe will increase, not some tip off from God himself - DYOR


Lol...I daytraded for a living boy...


I am therefore proven incorrect, indefinitely, undoubtedly.

I'll be sure to tell you - at least when I want my stock sold.

Are you a market trader? Do you want to chat with other traders? Then join my ingame chat channel: VonBel Trading
okoolos rimmer
Napkin Nation
#11 - 2014-06-01 01:24:14 UTC
Ofcourse the exploration will not be increased by 30% (not sure if you were sarcastic there). But the increase (whatever the number may be) coupled with the fact that you won't lose any loot due to scatter should result in net increase of salvage on the market.
HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-06-01 03:50:07 UTC
okoolos rimmer wrote:
Ofcourse the exploration will not be increased by 30% (not sure if you were sarcastic there). But the increase (whatever the number may be) coupled with the fact that you won't lose any loot due to scatter should result in net increase of salvage on the market.


uuuh yeah... that's why they are only doling out loot at 70%...to counter the fact that loot won't disappear....which I swear is where this discussion started...lol

At any rate the good loot was rarely lost. Only the bad loot because explorers scanned the cans ahead of time and knew which cans to grab. So yeah the crap loot will definitely increase in quantity because people won't be leaving it behind anymore but the good loot...well there will be less of it.
Samroski
Middle-Earth
#13 - 2014-06-01 04:26:28 UTC
Think monocles is the way to go. Massive increase in demand is imminent after OP setting the trend.

Any colour you like.
Adunh Slavy
#14 - 2014-06-01 04:28:22 UTC
My guess is, low end mins will go down. If the old correlation between high and low maintains, who knows. The old correlation became less strong after the drone poop change though still seems to be mostly true. If that will remain ... ?

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
okoolos rimmer
Napkin Nation
#15 - 2014-06-01 04:44:39 UTC  |  Edited by: okoolos rimmer
HeXxploiT wrote:
okoolos rimmer wrote:
Ofcourse the exploration will not be increased by 30% (not sure if you were sarcastic there). But the increase (whatever the number may be) coupled with the fact that you won't lose any loot due to scatter should result in net increase of salvage on the market.


uuuh yeah... that's why they are only doling out loot at 70%...to counter the fact that loot won't disappear....which I swear is where this discussion started...lol

At any rate the good loot was rarely lost. Only the bad loot because explorers scanned the cans ahead of time and knew which cans to grab. So yeah the crap loot will definitely increase in quantity because people won't be leaving it behind anymore but the good loot...well there will be less of it.


Yeah I'm not convinced of that "good loot was rarely lost". With no scatter mechanic people will run more sites in the same time with 0 loot loss and have a marginally better exploration bonus (the implant). Also let's not forget the increased number of explorers due to better mechanics. Not having to pay attention to loot going all over the place will make exploration a tiny bit safer as well. I predict a slightly increased supply of salvage.

edit: let's not forget that CCP also stated that they may change loot tables again if it gets out of control one way or the other.
Constantine Goldreich
Goldreich Interhub
#16 - 2014-06-01 04:53:00 UTC
Governor McMorris wrote:
Hello MD,

I've started this thread so us trade-minded folk can share our predictions for the post-Kronos market.

What are we expecting to happen to drones, ect...? I know we aren't expecting major mineral price changes until Crius.

Good luck!


Exotic Dancers will go up, INVEST NOW!!!

“High expectations are the key to absolutely everything”
HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-06-01 06:15:40 UTC
okoolos rimmer wrote:
HeXxploiT wrote:
okoolos rimmer wrote:
Ofcourse the exploration will not be increased by 30% (not sure if you were sarcastic there). But the increase (whatever the number may be) coupled with the fact that you won't lose any loot due to scatter should result in net increase of salvage on the market.


uuuh yeah... that's why they are only doling out loot at 70%...to counter the fact that loot won't disappear....which I swear is where this discussion started...lol

At any rate the good loot was rarely lost. Only the bad loot because explorers scanned the cans ahead of time and knew which cans to grab. So yeah the crap loot will definitely increase in quantity because people won't be leaving it behind anymore but the good loot...well there will be less of it.


Yeah I'm not convinced of that "good loot was rarely lost". With no scatter mechanic people will run more sites in the same time with 0 loot loss and have a marginally better exploration bonus (the implant). Also let's not forget the increased number of explorers due to better mechanics. Not having to pay attention to loot going all over the place will make exploration a tiny bit safer as well. I predict a slightly increased supply of salvage.

edit: let's not forget that CCP also stated that they may change loot tables again if it gets out of control one way or the other.


Yes well this certainly isn't a long term investment. I will have sold long before ccp get's around to making any changes.
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-06-01 08:37:31 UTC  |  Edited by: mynnna
HeXxploiT wrote:
okoolos rimmer wrote:
Ofcourse the exploration will not be increased by 30% (not sure if you were sarcastic there). But the increase (whatever the number may be) coupled with the fact that you won't lose any loot due to scatter should result in net increase of salvage on the market.


uuuh yeah... that's why they are only doling out loot at 70%...to counter the fact that loot won't disappear....which I swear is where this discussion started...lol

At any rate the good loot was rarely lost. Only the bad loot because explorers scanned the cans ahead of time and knew which cans to grab. So yeah the crap loot will definitely increase in quantity because people won't be leaving it behind anymore but the good loot...well there will be less of it.


It's debatable whether "only crap loot is lost" and even if that's true, it would be rather trivial for CCP to adjust the loot in a more granular manner (-30% here but -50% there and only -10% on THAT item) and only tell you the average. Bear

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-06-01 09:15:55 UTC
HeXxploiT wrote:
Paul VonBel wrote:
Governor McMorris wrote:
Hello MD,

I've started this thread so us trade-minded folk can share our predictions for the post-Kronos market.


Thanks bro,

I was kind of hoping for a place to dump all my secrets into.

Trit will break 10 I think. buy buy buy


If ya actually had a secret you would already own it and wouldn't mind sharing since you would theoretically be early to the table and selling when everyone else is buying.
No?

we get it, you're a really 1337 trader who made a right call. here is your "1337 trader" badge and complementary pocket watch, now STFU about salvage ok?

I should buy an Ishtar.
PyroxQ
Pinpoint Pierce
#20 - 2014-06-01 09:56:34 UTC
Your old avatar was better. Still looks like you are passing something horrible tho.
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