Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I agree with the idea of restricting the forum to real accounts. I think it would be a better place if people had to sign their name to what they say.

You cannot base it on NPC corp status; it is way too easy to form a holding corp for forum alts. You need to base it on skill points. The toon posting should be required to have an active training queue for the last 24 hours before they can post. One exception is the new player forum should always allow new accounts (not just new toons on an existing account) to post.

You could remove the restriction once the account reaches 20M SP. I think it is safe to say no one is going to train a forum alt that long, or PLEX/Sub an account just so they can post anonymously on the forum. Okay, some might, but it would be few and far between.

My primary aim in contributing to this thread has been to keep it current, so that as many people as possible can see it and YOU, Goon, for what you are. If it was up to me, I'd have this thread stickied in the New Player Q & A forum, so the newbies can see exactly the kind of person they are dealing with in EVE (and in society at large).

THREAD LOCK!? That right there shows how warped your perception is. My primary aim in contributing to this thread has been to keep it current, so that as many people as possible can see it and YOU, Goon, for what you are. If it was up to me, I'd have this thread stickied in the New Player Q & A forum, so the newbies can see exactly the kind of person they are dealing with in EVE (and in society at large).

I wouldn't even know HOW to go about getting a thread locked, nor do I care. Only people like you even consider such tactics.

An Egalitarian stance would seem to suggest to me that being in a player corp with 10+ members would be of equal worth to being alone in an NPC corp. Furthermore it seems counterintuitive to suggest such a stance would be considered parallel with the idea of the exclusion of those with lesser numbers from forum participation.

Readdressing the list:
1) What tangible asset? The throw away alt has no value, nor does a trash corp created for posting. Both are easily replaced which leaves no greater redress that current for ISD/CCP under otherwise unchanged policies.

2) The search function does nothing to vet conversation out of the New citizens forum that rightfully shouldn't be there but would have to fall there due to a lack of other non-dedicated purpose forums which those affected would have access to. This is primarily an issue for those seeking to ANSWER questions as it lowers the likelihood of legitimate new player questions from being seen, thus lowering the utility for new players.

3) Existing features working as is is not a benefit of a change, it can be an acknowledgement of a problem not being created, but in the case of other suggestions there is no reason special casing can't be applied much like what is still needed here to preserve functionality there. There is nothing unique to your suggestion that makes excluding a subforum specifically advantageous to it, but rather it's an acknowledgement that it suffers the same limits as other suggestions in that respect with a workaround that equally could probably apply to them all.

4) I thought it self evident. We had already established that there are disadvantages to player corps as is. You are adding another disadvantage to player corps consisting of less than 9 players. They gain nothing and lose access to the majority of the forums. That is objectively a worse situation for those corps and adds no incentive to join of have them.

5) That packaging is only as effective as the value of the corps identity. Seeing as such corps would only exist for their function, and that function can be accomplished by any corp with 10+ members, their identity is worthless and thus holding it hostage is ineffective.

6) So basically the answer to solo representation is simply to not be solo? If someone has placed themselves in a situation to minimize risk that person will not seek to undo that for posting privileges, they will create an alt and have that alt join a corp to post, which again leads to the abuses in points 1 and 5.

It's in no way permissive. It involves workarounds that aren't logically beneficial for the responsible posters affected and as such promotes the same tactics of creating actual disposable alts that you claim is the cause of the current forum condition. It creates no accountability or control because it renders everything that could be used as leverage worthless and replaceable. You are penalizing legitimate players and posters and telling them that the only way they can post is to separate consequence from posting, not add to it. This all hinges around the idea that people should be fine with not being able to post, current trolls, future trolls and legit posters alike, which I have trouble believing you actually consider the truth.

Regarding CAOD, that likely works because it's just CAOD, and even then leaves much to be desired. The reat of the forums are incomparable in both desirability and likelihood of effort.

Except that this doesn't make the forum better for everyone, it just puts up a sign that says "Your corp must be this big to ride." which makes the forums worse for those that don't qualify, but are still a part of everyone.

"Only mains are in corps." That's an erroneous presumption. How much ISK and SP does it take to open a corp for a forum alt?

Spoiler Alert: Almost nothing, and almost none.

The recent star citizen forum fiasco of them banning a poster with a valid suggestion (the creation of a in game channel for female players, if memory serves) simply because they were a Goon comes to mind.

That, or they're just reactionary fascists in that "game's" forums. Half of them are there and think that their $30 or whatever guarantees them a carebear heaven where they are safe and happy and eat clouds made of marshmallows all day, and the other half think those guys are nuts, and each side has about an equal number of moderators.

And either side will fly into an unreasoning rage at the merest suggestion of something wrong with the game. The mass delusion is something I haven't seen in a long damned time.

It's basically become a forum for worshipping Chris Roberts.