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Why the Federation must be destroyed

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James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#81 - 2014-05-30 22:17:12 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
I don't speak for any Caldari but myself, but I'm honestly amused that this thread is actually a thing. With that title too.

I couldn't agree more.

But lets think positively.

That this “thread” is “actually a thing” speaks to the lack of a… serious occurrence between the parties that usually motivates such discussions.
Anslo
Scope Works
#82 - 2014-05-30 22:18:48 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
I don't speak for any Caldari but myself, but I'm honestly amused that this thread is actually a thing. With that title too.

I couldn't agree more.

But lets think positively.

That this “thread” is “actually a thing” speaks to the lack of a… serious occurrence between the parties that usually motivates such discussions.


Hey our discussions are very vital.

How can you say that crocodile interior decorative motifs within luxury planet transports with built in holo systems aren't relevant to politics????

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#83 - 2014-05-30 22:22:03 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
I don't speak for any Caldari but myself, but I'm honestly amused that this thread is actually a thing. With that title too.

I couldn't agree more.

But lets think positively.

That this “thread” is “actually a thing” speaks to the lack of a… serious occurrence between the parties that usually motivates such discussions.



As you know, James, I'm all for a serious discussion of ways and means as they touch the Caldari / Gallente problem - but this thread was never going to be one.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#84 - 2014-05-30 23:21:11 UTC
Lovely coat you've got there, James. It's really quite striking!

No, really. I like it.

Katrina Oniseki

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2014-05-30 23:25:55 UTC
Oh! Sorry, he was well-camouflaged in his ident picture and I didn't initially see him at all.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
#86 - 2014-05-30 23:40:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Laurentis Thiesant
Diana Kim wrote:

Your crimes are in supporting criminal regime and promoting anti-human ideals like democracy and individualism.
As for your direct involvement in death or genocide of Caldari people, I have no data available on this matter, but since you are a gallentean, these subjects should be investigated in detail as highly probable.

As the part of me appearing before CBT (since it is the correct judicial Caldari corporation, and not CEP), that would be simply stupid without actual charges against me. Would you like to accuse me in something maybe?


Let me clarify by saying that I invoked the CEP to assure the cluster that I was speaking about the legitimate head of the Caldari State, and not any other potential alternate bodies that claim the title at this time.

Now, to try and wade through the pages and pages of conversation that has gone on while I have been asleep...

I think Ixiris easily provided us with the terms of reference for your trial, whether undertaken by the CBT or a military tribunal of some decript.

Treason. Aiding or conspiring to aid a wanted criminal. You get the idea, there's enough to choose from.

Have your day in court, and I'll have mine and we'll see where the rational law puts us.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#87 - 2014-05-30 23:48:07 UTC
Laurentis Thiesant wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Your crimes are in supporting criminal regime and promoting anti-human ideals like democracy and individualism.
As for your direct involvement in death or genocide of Caldari people, I have no data available on this matter, but since you are a gallentean, these subjects should be investigated in detail as highly probable.

As the part of me appearing before CBT (since it is the correct judicial Caldari corporation, and not CEP), that would be simply stupid without actual charges against me. Would you like to accuse me in something maybe?


Let be clarify by saying that I invoked the CEP to assure the cluster that I was speaking about the legitimate head of the Caldari State, and not any other potential alternate bodies that claim the title at this time.

Now, to try and wade through the pages and pages of conversation that has gone on while I have been asleep...

I think Ixiris easily provided us with the terms of reference for your trial, whether undertaken by the CBT or a military tribunal of some decript.

Treason. Aiding or conspiring to aid a wanted criminal. You get the idea, there's enough to choose from.

Have your day in court, and I'll have mine and we see where the rational law puts us.

Hey! This thread is for discussing fashion, potatoes, interior design of luxury vessels and the finer points of model space ships. Stop rambling on about tribunals, treason and what-not. Sad

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
#88 - 2014-05-30 23:50:11 UTC
That is literally every thread in this place, although I can see how you'd get onto fashion, what with seeing my fabulous coat over and over. I really do like it.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#89 - 2014-05-30 23:55:22 UTC
Laurentis Thiesant wrote:
That is literally every thread in this place, although I can see how you'd get onto fashion, what with seeing my fabulous coat over and over. I really do like it.

Do they make it in black and silver?

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Caroline Grace
Retrostellar Boulevard
#90 - 2014-05-31 00:14:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Caroline Grace
One more time you will threat the Federation, Kim-potato, and I will personally fill your filthy mouth with macaroni pizza and upon your hot spicy head destruction I will reveal my final true form for once and for all, an exotic buttdance on your face with the ultimate bra-free weapon----

"Now I am become nipple, the destroyer of Diana Kims."

I'm Caroline Grace, and this is my favorite musical on the Citadel.

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#91 - 2014-05-31 00:32:06 UTC
I don't even know what is going on in this thread anymore, but I do know Diana Kim is getting more Gallente propositions than I did when I stumbled through the wrong door into a flesh club thinking it was a telnet booth.

Katrina Oniseki

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#92 - 2014-05-31 00:36:04 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:

...
Make war on the Gallente Federation for as long as your nations are at war. But understand that you will not always be at war, and that you may even have to settle for peace. Be ready to accept that, because it will be determined not by you but instead by those to whom you have pledged service. Do your duty as it is commanded of you; don't try to twist or disregard what that duty is just to fulfill your own need for vengeance. That's what separates a professional from a monster.

I don't do vengeance, Lieutenant Kernher, because vengeance is not professional.
As for us being aggressors in this war, indeed, from legal point of view we were. But do you remember what they were doing on Caldari Prime right before the war has started? What exactly triggered the war? It wasn't just Noir with his carrier, no, it was the situation on Caldari Prime.
And this planet was occupied by Gallenteans all these years. Our planet.
The diplomacy has failed to remove this occupation, and when they started to attack us, our culture, we couldn't just sit and watch. We did what we should have done long before: took our planet back.

I am doing my duty as I see fit to protect our citizens, and all human civilization from degradation of gallenteans.
I don't even want to take them into the State, I don't want to absorb them like you, or kill them.
What I want, is to dismantle their criminal regime, their government.

200 years ago, when they first attacked us, many of other nations, that were oppressed by Federation stood on our defense. Gallenteans used their military force to put riots down, and we were able to stand, while they were put down under black gallentean hand.
Since that happened, we have grown, and outgrown the Federation. We stand firm and we can fight them, and we can win.
Now it is our turn to pay our debt. We can destroy the Federation, and all these nations, who were standing against gallentean nationalism and tyranny, will be able to do whatever they want.

I don't care what will be with worlds of former Federation, let them choose for themselves what they want to be - and this time, without oppression from gallentean side.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#93 - 2014-05-31 00:39:47 UTC
Talas Dir wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

1. Gallenteans rammed Malkalen station.
2. Gallenteans were attacking Caldari peoples on Caldari Prime before the war has started
3. Gallenteans were defacing and destroying Caldari religious and historical sites on Caldari Prime
4. Gallenteans started military invasion on Caldari Prime disregarding civilian lives under threat of orbital bombardment
5. Gallente death squads in Black Rise.
6. Gallenteans destroyed our whole leviathan and dropped it on inhabited Caldari planet.


That's why you want to destroy the Federation? Really?

I mean, the presentation is nice, but those aren't even issues. Have you seen the Punisher? Ugliest thing ever made, and proof positive as to why the Amarrians must be destroyed instead.

Have you seen...

the thorax...

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Anslo
Scope Works
#94 - 2014-05-31 00:43:19 UTC
Thorax shaped vibrating potatoes.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#95 - 2014-05-31 00:43:57 UTC
Laurentis Thiesant wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Your crimes are in supporting criminal regime and promoting anti-human ideals like democracy and individualism.
As for your direct involvement in death or genocide of Caldari people, I have no data available on this matter, but since you are a gallentean, these subjects should be investigated in detail as highly probable.

As the part of me appearing before CBT (since it is the correct judicial Caldari corporation, and not CEP), that would be simply stupid without actual charges against me. Would you like to accuse me in something maybe?


Let me clarify by saying that I invoked the CEP to assure the cluster that I was speaking about the legitimate head of the Caldari State, and not any other potential alternate bodies that claim the title at this time.

Now, to try and wade through the pages and pages of conversation that has gone on while I have been asleep...

I think Ixiris easily provided us with the terms of reference for your trial, whether undertaken by the CBT or a military tribunal of some decript.

Treason. Aiding or conspiring to aid a wanted criminal. You get the idea, there's enough to choose from.

Have your day in court, and I'll have mine and we'll see where the rational law puts us.

Me? With treason?
HA! Sure! Anytime.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#96 - 2014-05-31 00:47:34 UTC
Caroline Grace wrote:
One more time you will threat the Federation, Kim-potato, and I will personally fill your filthy mouth with macaroni pizza and upon your hot spicy head destruction I will reveal my final true form for once and for all, an exotic buttdance on your face with the ultimate bra-free weapon----

"Now I am become nipple, the destroyer of Diana Kims."

Your indecent behavior is another reason why the Federation must be destroyed.

Oh, and try, if you dare, because I would fill your mouth with something else. Say, for example, an antimatter round, launched from 75mm cannon.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#97 - 2014-05-31 00:55:10 UTC
So your gonna stick your 75mm cannon in her mouth? Not a 150mm? Kinda small
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#98 - 2014-05-31 01:02:13 UTC
Least your honest.....
Bryen Verrisai
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#99 - 2014-05-31 01:03:58 UTC
Caroline Grace wrote:
One more time you will threat the Federation, Kim-potato, and I will personally fill your filthy mouth with macaroni pizza and upon your hot spicy head destruction I will reveal my final true form for once and for all, an exotic buttdance on your face with the ultimate bra-free weapon----

"Now I am become nipple, the destroyer of Diana Kims."

So do we have to buy tickets to this, or do we just show up if we wanna watch?

Also, Diana, stop being silly or I'll tell everyone where your ticklish spots are.
Talas Dir
Super Happy Fun Corp
#100 - 2014-05-31 01:34:16 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Talas Dir wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

1. Gallenteans rammed Malkalen station.
2. Gallenteans were attacking Caldari peoples on Caldari Prime before the war has started
3. Gallenteans were defacing and destroying Caldari religious and historical sites on Caldari Prime
4. Gallenteans started military invasion on Caldari Prime disregarding civilian lives under threat of orbital bombardment
5. Gallente death squads in Black Rise.
6. Gallenteans destroyed our whole leviathan and dropped it on inhabited Caldari planet.


That's why you want to destroy the Federation? Really?

I mean, the presentation is nice, but those aren't even issues. Have you seen the Punisher? Ugliest thing ever made, and proof positive as to why the Amarrians must be destroyed instead.

Have you seen...

the thorax...


Well, it is a pretty blatant attempt to create a flying dildo. I would argue that the Armageddon looks moreso like one than the Thorax, however.

You know what, let's just call it even and destroy both the Federation AND the Empire. In there place could be a real honour-bound group of pilots, like the CFC. It would truly be a glorious outcome.