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[Proposal] One time character name change per account with conditions.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2014-05-30 22:01:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Kyle Tawate wrote:
If you ran for csm, I will vote for you. This is the strategic thinking EVE leaders are currently missing. (Just realised you'e tes, so I don't know how my corp will feel about that statement)
Support Gizznitt Malikite for CSM then. I don't know if he plans to run, but it was after reading his post here (post #20) that I re-evaluated mine and added the second part. He is a man of reason and he knows a lot about EVE. The CSM could use someone like him.

I think the best option is to not base the name change on cost and simply make sure it is impossible to use it to drop your identity.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Adunh Slavy
#82 - 2014-06-01 16:30:47 UTC
Add new info to characters: Name History. Like corp history, it is there forever. Use that in conjuction with the notes field, to keep data on people.

See someone doing names changes once a year or every three months, or whatever the limit is, and you know he's not to be trusted.

Name change history would nip the "fear" of bad people changing their name.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
t Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#83 - 2014-06-01 22:37:43 UTC
am surprise its not in game already . name change history is all the safeguard you need .
Kyle Tawate
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#84 - 2014-06-11 21:00:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Kyle Tawate
t Hanaya wrote:
am surprise its not in game already . name change history is all the safeguard you need .

Unfortunatly, some people are harder to educate than others on such a straight forward issue. Its kinda like marriage equality or pot legalisation; its a good idea, but its hard to pass.

Name changes are a fundemental feature for any sucessful MMO.
Kyle Tawate
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#85 - 2014-07-08 03:41:03 UTC
Jint Hikaru wrote:
No no no..... Eve does not need name changes.

If you buy a character then you should look for one with a name you want as well as the skills you are looking for.

If you chose a bad name in the first place, suck it up, you made that decision.


I'm sorry, but what you said was closed minded at best. "Sucking it up" is a code word for lack of empathy and lazy problem solving. I would concider maybe actually countering the ideas set on the table, rather than white washing the issue with a "we don't need this" excuse.

I hope this has helped you in discussing about name changes.

Have a nice day.

Name changes are a fundemental feature for any sucessful MMO.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#86 - 2014-07-14 08:02:40 UTC
Kyle Tawate wrote:
Jint Hikaru wrote:
No no no..... Eve does not need name changes.

If you buy a character then you should look for one with a name you want as well as the skills you are looking for.

If you chose a bad name in the first place, suck it up, you made that decision.


I'm sorry, but what you said was closed minded at best. "Sucking it up" is a code word for lack of empathy and lazy problem solving. I would concider maybe actually countering the ideas set on the table, rather than white washing the issue with a "we don't need this" excuse.

I hope this has helped you in discussing about name changes.

Have a nice day.



OMG you've totally convinced me, how could I have been so wrong, I completely reverse my stance on this subject.

Wait, Nope.... sorry, I was in sarcasm mode.


Name Changes still bring extra complexity, the need to check for a name history on everyone you meet and unwelcome character reputation laundering.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Felix Judge
Regnum Ludorum
#87 - 2014-09-23 12:25:11 UTC
Jint Hikaru wrote:
Sure.... the game may have an unchangeable string of numbers to identify each player, but as a player, I recognize other players only by their name.

Not everyone in the game is on my watchlist.... not even the regulars in my local system are. However I recognize these people by their name and I know what some of them are likely to do.

With a name change function, any name i don't recognize could potentially be someone I do know with a name change.
So now I have to check the name change history of everyone around me in case they used to be someone I knew.
[...]


All of this is a lot less serious when the name changes are restricted to e.g. once every one / two / three years, like the neural remap timer, and becomes eligible only after twelve months' of subscription.
Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#88 - 2014-10-01 16:00:18 UTC
If there was a substantial cost in isk (NOT plex) involved
If it was allowed not more than once every six months
A search for your character also showed a list of names the character used to have.

This way people are not lumbered with the stupid name they picked/inherited when they were drunk/bought the char.
A name change would not hide the characters previous sins.

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#89 - 2014-10-06 13:06:03 UTC
I don't think name changes should be brought into Eve. However I can understand why some people would like the chance to change a name they picked in their earlier years.

For me the only way to introduce name changes into Eve is to let every character have one name change. You don't need to purchase it or have a certain security status. Every single character gets one chance to rename themselves.

The new name gets placed on the main character sheet so its easy to see.

eg. Archibald Thistlewaite III
formaly known as- Mad dog Mcgrue.

It is also highlighted in the Employment history when and which corp you were a member off when the name was changed.

By limiting it to only once it reduces names changes being the way to avoid the consequences of your more dubious activities. Although your old name will appear right next to your new name when people show info on you.

For the character bazaar, it allows you to ask a premium for your character if it has a name change available. If you are buying you can either pick a character with a name you like or pick one with a rename available, then its up to you if you want to rename and reduce the value on any sell on.

User of 'Bumblefck's Luscious & Luminous Mustachio Wax'
Maccian
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#90 - 2014-10-06 21:53:22 UTC
Not a fan of this idea. Mainly got issues with people buying a char then renaming them. You want to pick your toons name then you have to start from scratch like the rest of us. Also some eve lore and history might be effected. Not to mention renaming bait alts
Random Nardieu
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2014-10-07 22:22:41 UTC
I support this, But I would like to see previous names on the characters bio, also keep Alliance standings the same, for a NRDS player I need standings to survive!
Flamespar
WarRavens
#92 - 2014-10-09 01:17:53 UTC
They can already do this on the Serenity server, not sure what the requirements are for it though.
Kyle Tawate
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#93 - 2014-12-03 00:47:45 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
They can already do this on the Serenity server, not sure what the requirements are for it though.

So are you telling us, that China can have it, but we can't?

Name changes are a fundemental feature for any sucessful MMO.
Woeful Animation
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#94 - 2015-01-08 14:54:12 UTC
I would favor this, but I would have one very strong condition.

The prior name and history of the character must be made available in the biography of the character. It would be read only and not editable. All standings would remain the same, the employment history would also remain. Nothing other than the character's name would otherwise change. The date the old name was assumed and the date of the change would also be noted.

Yes, if you apply to a corps they would see the old name. It would be up to the owner to explain the change. All other similar name changes would be noted in biography.
Altirius Saldiaro
Doomheim
#95 - 2015-01-08 16:02:42 UTC
Their former name should show up in their character info like corp history.