EVE General Discussion

Malcanis Law anyone?

I, for one, would love the opportunity to repeatedly abuse the system every time I wanted to be perfectly skilled in a new ship.

What could possibly go wrong?

Maybe you should read my post a bit more closely then. Or did you miss that first part about “An SP remap bypasses game mechanics and game balance” and the subsequent description of which mechanics and balances are being bypassed?

Attributes don't make it easier. Whatever gave you that idea? Or did you miss that first part about “an SP remap” and somehow thought we are talking about attribute remaps? Attributes also effectively get removed by having SP remaps by the way… Yet another reason why it's a bad idea.

It's not bullcrap. It's the actual and blindingly obvious effect of having SP remaps, and is the main reason why SP remaps is a horribly bad idea. Tying that horribly bad idea to a payment scheme just gives it a firm push off its precarious ledge half-way down the cliffs of awfulness and makes it splatter noisily against the bottom of the chasm of mindblowing abominations.

So, again, if you want skills to be removed (which is what you're asking when you're suggesting an SP remap), just ask for skills to be removed and provide a good reason why this should happen. Oh, and just to throw in the standard copypasta, it would have to be a spectacularly good reason to justify all the downsides:

• It removes the point of having skills to begin with.
• It removes the mechanics and balance for skill progression and specialisation.
• It removes the point of having attributes.
• It removes attribute implants from the game.
• It removes variety and instead encourages FOTM and cookie-cutter setups.
• It removes the uniqueness, history and "character" of your character.
• It removes planning and choice and consequences.
• It removes goal-setting, progression and any achievement in those areas.
• It kills character trading.
• It massively boosts older characters over new ones.
• It introduces "catching up" as a concept in EVE and instantly makes it impossible to do.

…all that, and for what? It solves nothing, after all. Respecs are a solution to the inherent problem of class/level-based system lock-ins. EVE does not have that problem because it has no classes, no levels, and no lock-ins. Transplanting that solution into a game that does not suffer from the class/level lock-in problem actually creates some of the problems it is intended to solve.

It is bullcrap because you came up with it. Either develop it into a decent idea, or stop bringing it up. Better yet, make your own topic about it, since we are not discussing this particularly bad idea here.

Once again, your talk about balance and mechanics is taking space, not conveying anything at all. What exactly are you trying to say? Explain it without the word "mechanics" or "balance" this time though.

Maybe you don't fully understand how skills work. Atributes affect skill training time, but that's about it. Maybe you somehow got the notion that we want yearly SP remaps? I mean, you already have this notion that we are asking for skill training removal.....

I'll just show you the rest that you have conveniently left out:

Either develop it into a decent idea, or stop bringing it up. Better yet, make your own topic about it, since we are not discussing this particularly bad idea here.

Your self appointed "solution" to what this topic is aiming for is so far off the mark, you've actually managed to derail the conversation. Once again.

Either develop it into a decent idea, or stop bringing it up. Better yet, make your own topic about it, since we are not discussing this particularly bad idea here.

You are welcome to try and explain your point again though, since so far you've gracefully avoided it.

Also lawl, you think I lost.

This should be stickied somewhere in F&I.

WTB: Dev video with them showing us the look on faces when they see our 'ideas'. Something like this.

Carry on

…you mean the solution that others mentioned and I pointed out would be a bad idea for reasons that are very obvious and that have been described so often I have ready-made text files to copy-paste in every time someone fails to think about the consequences of what they're asking for? Yeah, it's not mine. If you had bothered reading my posts rather than fallaciously dismiss it out of hand, you would have noticed this.

Yes, pretty much instantly by not reading and replacing the gaps with straw men.

No. We can agree that having an argument like 5 year olds is not something I'm interested in doing. Which is what I said.