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Their message is consistent and unambiguous. It is "We do not like the impact T2 BPOs have on the game, we recognise that removing them outright would be disruptive to the economy, and we have not yet made a decision on how to handle them".

Module teiricide and allowing us to build named modules in some manner could decimate many of the problematic modules if cunningly balanced, if considering potential sources of inspiration for iterative devaluing

Just turn them into non-functional collectors items. That way, anyone that wanted to collect them still can. You shouldn't need to retain redundant mechanics. Send them the way of mines.

Bad example.

The Armageddon used to be around 90 million to build. So many got built at that level. That stockpile has yet to be exhausted. People are selling at a price that's profitable for them.

I might be late comming into this but I have a qyestion and I don't really have the desire to read through 57 pages to find my answer.

When will the blueprint changes come into play.

I thought it would come with the latest expansion. but ingame my bp's still have me lvl 110 etc

Sorry if this was explained somewhere but im slightly confused

Steve: The items used in the NPE need to be special cased at least in those systems.

The NPE does not use civilian modules any more. Except for the items given to you.

Its the time to build issue for the afterburners first item created that is the biggest issue.

Hi, I've read a bit in here so I know that old ME will be scaled to match witn new ME accordingly, as per above "ME 6 translates to ~8.6%, which we're rounding up to 9%" Still remains the question, what lowest old ME do I need to get new 10%? Is it ME 10 = new 10%?

I also read that ongoing research jobs will be scaled the same way, I suppose this will not impact the research time once it goes but only the outcoming BPO once the job completes, right?

There is nowhere I saw any comment on pending jobs. If I have BPO research waiting in line will it get started immediately after update or will I be waiting in "pending" status for the whole timer?
At the same time, I suppose there won't be any research time change on that pending job when it starts (right?) and the resulting BPO will get adjusted the same way as others.

Please correct me if I'm wrong somewhere as I did manage to scrol through only about 25% of replies in this "snakelike" post.

Much appreciated. Removing BPOs outright would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

I tried to read through at least all dev post but didnt found some answers i am looking for:

1.) A statement is "with the goal that no blueprint gets *worse* as a result of the transition." (POST 469) and its conflict with the capital BPO Problem as already indicated (a.e.in POST 343 page 18): ">The double whammy is our well optimized ME 2-6 capital hull BPOs will suddenly get a load of extra waste." ... "There should not be "a load of extra waste", I am not sure where you're seeing that?"

And keeping this in mind: "Because we want ME to go to 10%, and we want "perfect ME" blueprints in the new system to give the same build cost as a "perfect ME" blueprint in the current system, we need to have the new base cost * 0.9 to be equal to the old base build cost, and to get that we have to divide it by 0.9, which comes to 11.11111...1111%." (Post 331 page 17)

I will take the Orca and its need for its capital cargo bays as Example (assuming perfect production skills):

Old requirement: 34 [Base Value] + 3 [10% waste= 3,4 -> 3 Units] = 37 Units unresearched, perfect reserched ME LVL means the 34 Base Units which is actually reached with an ME LVL of 6.

New: 34 * 1,111111... = 37,7777 -> 38 Base Units unresearched

-9% [ME9% was the former ME6 = perfect] = 34,58 -> 35 runded up (SISI Verified today)
-10% [ME10%] = 34,2

->if you round the 34.2 down it means that the conversion take an perfect (ME 6 OLD) BPO and make an unperfect (ME9% new) BPO out of it as ME10% safe you another unit.
->if you round it up that will means that the orca needs 5 more capital parts (as other components are affected too) to be built in the new system compared to the old one if i did see it right on SISI, regardless if ME9% or ME10%

This happens as you need to round after the "* 1,111..." .As the ME reduction is applied when the BPO is used. Taking the Idea of the transition only:
34 (base old) * 1,111111 (for the new base value) * 0,91 (9% reduction) = 34,37777 mathematic correctly rounded down would be 34, but as i already said, there is an extra step between getting the new Base Value and the ME reduction (round 37,7777... to 38)...

Your last Idea:

Post 873 page 44: "We're currently leaning heavily towards calculating ME for the job as a whole, not per-run, probably with a limiter that requires every run always consumes at least one of every material (to prevent 9 apocs -> 10 paladins shenanigans)."

will not be helpfull as you cant install a production job for so many orcas to completly compensate. If you could get 100 runs you have to use 3458 Cargo Bay units which is 100 * 34,58 from the ME9% calculation above. But you cant install more than 3 at a time in an NPC station. And it would still be more than current (34*100=3400)

On the other side this new Idea has a serious downside: if you round correctly the 34,2 from the ME10% above you need 34 units per run, but 342 units from 10 runs, so 2 units wasted because of making more runs at once... Even with only 3 runs there can be waste if the requirement is rounded down for the production of 1 unit:
3*34,2=102,6 ->103

How do you plan to keep those type of BPOs perfect with the same built costs? Making all sub ME 10 but "perfect" BPOs ME10% would be a solution, changing the material requirements would be another ... but there could still be the problem with your latest idea...

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2.) As BPOs can only be used where they are located, what will happen to the BPOs that will come out of research after patch (inserted before patch) if these are locked in a npc station, while beeing researched at a POS in the same system?
- will those appear in the POS (getting unlocked by the same time)
- appear in the station again, still locked (for a last time)
- cause a DB error and disappear? (hopefully just joking)

I ask because its something that isnt tested in SISI as you remove all the POSes and the corresponding jobs and BPOs when you make a new snapshot from tranquility before you install new patches as far as i know / could see.

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3.) I have many BPOs locked in a NPC station with manufacturing slots only and use a POS to research/copy them. Now i need to move them to a station with copy slots as i cant use the POS any more or to the POS (depending on Value) Will the Lock/unlock system be overworked? It would be a too long text to describe but have you ever tried to unlock 100s of BPOs ?
its a click fest and take forever. The UI makes it even more complicated, as it dont close the votes, but only the tabs so you have to search for forgotten votes between all the accepted ones. Not to mention the work to lock them again.... and repeat all this when i want to change station because system cost are getting through the roof ....

Any solution for this in sight?