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Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 188
Dominus Tempus Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation Likes received: 188	#61 - 2014-05-29 21:26:58 UTC Personally I'd like to see renting as a supported game mechanic rather than just something CFC and some of the others use. More Deadspace/Officer mods coming into the economy? Awesome. I fail to see how an increase in content use is a problem.

Handsome Millionaire Playboys Sedition. 2,776
PotatoOverdose Handsome Millionaire Playboys Sedition. Likes received: 2,776	#62 - 2014-05-29 21:45:10 UTC If you have a problem with renters, grab an inty and have some fun.

Viziam Amarr Empire 11,532
James Amril-Kesh Viziam Amarr Empire Likes received: 11,532	#63 - 2014-05-30 04:05:52 UTC Dominus Tempus wrote: Personally I'd like to see renting as a supported game mechanic rather than just something CFC and some of the others use. Uh, it is a supported game mechanic. Everything you need to make it work is already in place, as you can see quite plainly. Enjoying the rain today? ;)

James Amril-Kesh

Viziam

Amarr Empire

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#64 - 2014-05-30 04:08:26 UTC

Dragon Outlaw wrote:

Trin Javidan wrote:

Could i draw the following conclusings from the quote's above?
-In the past is was mainly only Alliance members that used up space, now it is Alliance members AND renters. And looking at dotlan (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliances) the renter alliances combined exist out of 22,000 characters, which is equal or slighly more than all the sov owner alliances combined. Where some renter alliances are 4*size of sov owner Alliance.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png

If renter & sov corp are the same size or more, why are renters not just take it or how are sov holders manage to capture / maintain the space? Is it because of titans? like what John Ending sais? (I am sorry i am a noob)

And where is isk actualy spend on, by those 2 groups? What effects will that have? Could i draw the conclusion that eve is just scaling up and that titans are a common thing now? Would it be something to have that can doomsday a titan?

Apparently, Shadow of Death and Solar Wing were pretty big renter alliances. I just do not remember how big they were compared to what we see today. But like it was said above, renters have existed in Eve for a very long time! Its not a new things but...it is probably bigger then what it was before.

And if renters would try to take the sov from their "owners"....I think it would end pretty badly for them. The owners would not even need Titans!

Solar Wing was absolutely massive. I don't remember quite how big but for quite a while they had the most systems by far.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

AcT Legion 45
Snakebyte Jack AcT Legion Likes received: 45	#65 - 2014-05-31 06:39:58 UTC Its kind of simple. If you dont want to support such tactics, dont be a rent-boy.

flakeys

Doomheim

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#66 - 2014-05-31 09:04:10 UTC

Trin Javidan wrote:

Thanks for all the replies! I think i begin to understand it.

Could i draw the following conclusings from the quote's above?
-In the past is was mainly only Alliance members that used up space, now it is Alliance members AND renters. And looking at dotlan (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliances) the renter alliances combined exist out of 22,000 characters, which is equal or slighly more than all the sov owner alliances combined. Where some renter alliances are 4*size of sov owner Alliance.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png

If renter & sov corp are the same size or more, why are renters not just take it or how are sov holders manage to capture / maintain the space? Is it because of titans? like what John Ending sais? (I am sorry i am a noob)

And where is isk actualy spend on, by those 2 groups? What effects will that have? Could i draw the conclusion that eve is just scaling up and that titans are a common thing now? Would it be something to have that can doomsday a titan?

Ow now that would be fun to watch , we could make it a new CCP live event as i'm sure the outcome would be about the same as the last live event wich went to null-sec to 'kick some ass' . Lol

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

flakeys

Doomheim

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#67 - 2014-05-31 09:06:52 UTC

SurrenderMonkey wrote:

Trin Javidan wrote:

-In the past is was mainly only Alliance members that used up space, now it is Alliance members AND renters.

Renting has been a "thing" for as long as I can remember. It's not new. Pearl-clutching histrionics over renters is kind of new, though.

Well there is a slight difference i think in regards to the 'old renters' also having the 'rule' to come to their landlords aid in fights/wars while these days i think that is mostly not the case but more of a 'hell if you insist on joining our fleet sure but we rather not have you bears in it tbfh' though not 100% sure .

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

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Serene Repose Likes received: 3,094	#68 - 2014-05-31 14:39:44 UTC Trin Javidan wrote: Hi,I am wondering what the 0.0 renter status and the isk injection means for the eve economy. Does someone know this? Hi,I am wondering where's this "serious concern"? We must accommodate the idiocracy.

The Scope Gallente Federation 4,497
Gully Alex Foyle The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 4,497	#69 - 2014-05-31 21:55:14 UTC Hey, someone has to farm the ISK for me to destroy (by trading and cashing in FW LPs). Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!

Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 18
Sergeant Dashing Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation Likes received: 18	#70 - 2014-06-01 06:26:16 UTC Trin Javidan wrote: Brooks Puuntai wrote: How is it injecting isk? Outside of normal ratting/anomaly income that would have come from non-renters anyways. the focus lies on the easyness off obtaining it with the current 0.0 geographics & the botlord agreements What did I even read

Silent Vale LinkNet 7,384
Ramona McCandless Silent Vale LinkNet Likes received: 7,384	#71 - 2014-06-01 11:18:18 UTC Oh wait I get it! Renters = Immigrants Stealth xenophobia thread Gotcha "Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway "A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

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Trin Javidan Caymen Labs Likes received: 72	#72 - 2014-06-04 13:34:07 UTC Ramona McCandless wrote: Oh wait I get it! Renters = Immigrants Stealth xenophobia thread Gotcha No, stealth "wtf all this renting is making mah plex too high topic", but most pancakes dont even get it. Fair enough.

Worthless Carebears The Initiative. 16,192
Jenn aSide Worthless Carebears The Initiative. Likes received: 16,192	#73 - 2014-06-04 13:43:41 UTC Ramona McCandless wrote: Oh wait I get it! Renters = Immigrants Stealth xenophobia thread Gotcha DEY DERK AR DERBS Derbs = anoms btw.