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What is the fastest possible way to get high standing with a faction?

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Yuliz Stareine
#1 - 2014-05-29 02:27:13 UTC
Hi. I'm new to EVE, but have read and followed along some of the metagaming for a couple of years. What interested me more than anything was the market system. So I installed the game this weekend, pitted around with the new player missions, and got a feel for the UI. Anyhow, to leave out most of my gushing remarks about how beutiful the sandbox is to a newbie, I found out that the optimal setup for trading in the major stations is to have perfect (10?) standing with the owner's faction and corporation along with the accounting and broker relations skills I have already begun to train up. If the 2011 guide I read is still accurate, that means I am seeking said standing with the Caldari and their navy agents.

So while I wait for the latter skills to complete, i'm looking for any kind of efficient means of getting those standings. Bear in mind that I'm only capable of flying a basic frigate ship and don't have much in the way of mechanical or engineering skills and the like since I am focused on getting those important trade skills trained. Ultimately I'd like to spend all day in a station or two playing on the market so to the extent that it is possible I would like to avoid training other skills for now.

Thus far my googling has not turned up much that I can readily access except for level 1 missions which aren't moving the standing number up much at all. Another forum post I found here indicated that factional warfare also raises standings, but I don't know how that mechanic works. I found an excellent post called the "faction repair plan," or something which was very helpful but seemed to indicate doing missions that were well beyond my capabilities.

At this point I am a bit miffed, though I understand that all gaming has an element of grinding to it. By my estimation there would appear to be several thousand missions in my future if I want to attain the standings I seek with the skill set I will have in under a month's training time. So without undue solipsism, I have to ask you veterans: is there a better way to build this mouse-trap or have a set an unrealistic goal for myself? I've seen some characters previously advertised on the bazaar subforum that have low skillpoints and very high standings. I don't know how this is done, but I would like to think it indicates some hope for me yet.

Sorry to be so long winded! Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#2 - 2014-05-29 03:20:52 UTC
Google COSMOS missions for some help with this goal.

Also give up on the whole 'must be 10.0' thing. I have high standings for a trader, and mine are only about 7 (with Gallente faction) and 6 (Sisters of EVE). I do have >9.85 with the main corporations I use, however, as that is a lot faster to get.

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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-05-29 04:13:33 UTC
The fastest way is probably faction warfare. If you can blitz level 4 FW missions, you get promotions very quickly, which provide a pretty big faction boost. It will trash your standings with the opposing factions, however.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#4 - 2014-05-29 06:39:10 UTC
Perfect (or even close to it) standings are not necessary to trade, though they are certainly helpful. You'll want at least enough to "take the edge off" which should be easily accomplished with some of the above COSMOS missions and data centers. Time and isk investment for both should be minimal.
Mark Sviridoff
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-05-29 07:16:04 UTC
Faction warefare will make half of the Eve your enemy. Who can shot you even in high sec without CONCORD interferience. Which means serious problem with logistic. So ono your place I would forget about FW and go do tutorial missions for each 12 sets of agents in Eve.

Do not forget, that you will always lose some minor standing against gallente and minmatar when you gain some standings for caldary and amarr. But you will lose much more standings if you will do security missions against other faction (like killing amarr ships for minmatar missions). Yet security missions is the best way to grind standings after you finish tutorial grind. Each 10 missions in tutorial gives you standing and each 16 missions of other kind will also give you standing. Security misssions gives the most. Then mining missions, distribution missions give you least standing, but it is faster to finish 16 distribution missions, then 16 security missions.

My suggestions:
1. go to following systems and do all tutorial there:
Amarr
Deepari
Pasha
Conoban

Caldari
Uitra
Jouvulen
Akiainavas

Gallente
Couster
Clellinon
Trossere

Minmatar
Hadaugago
Malukker
Embod

dotlan map is your friend here

2. go to Simela and start doing Sisters of Eve security missions in there. Most profit via SoE loyalty points and each 16 missions you will get standings for your faction. Ignore any mission, that will require to kill faction NPC

eve survival is you friend here

3. after you home standings will get high enough do COSMOS missions to get standings for the other factions. You should be able to do so, sinse security missions for SoE will give you enough PVE combat experience.
Tam Arai
Mi Pen Rai
#6 - 2014-05-29 09:58:31 UTC
as already advised, blasting through cosmos and lv4 missions is the fastest way.

however, if i'm reading your post correctly, you don't want to spend all the time skilling up to be able to do those missions quickly. Instead you should look in to the distribution missions- as a trader/ industrialist having the ability to move goods will be useful and its fairly quick to do each mission.

also train some social skills to help your standing to increase quicker
Velicitia
XS Tech
#7 - 2014-05-29 10:44:40 UTC
wait -- don't (market) taxes work the same way as most of the others --> 6.67 and you're at zero (for that half, still need accounting/broker relations/etc)?

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-05-29 10:54:39 UTC
Every 6 months you can do the SoE Epic Arc

you can use this to give yourself a small top-up to whichever faction you have the lowest standing with
as there are no negative standing adjustments for other factions

I know it's not 'fast' , but little in eve that's worth doing is
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#9 - 2014-05-29 11:15:18 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
wait -- don't (market) taxes work the same way as most of the others --> 6.67 and you're at zero (for that half, still need accounting/broker relations/etc)?


No.

IIRC, adding 14 points of corp standing halves your broker fees without limit, and adding 6 points of faction standing does the same. (Logarithmic scale).

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#10 - 2014-05-29 11:40:44 UTC
If you have a lot of cash and only care about one racial faction, joining a militia and buying FW mission standings turnin is extremely fast. You also get a ton of LP which you can turn back into cash to offset the spend, and then leave FW. With enough cash you should be able to max racial faction quickly.

This will destroy your standings with their enemy, though.
gfldex
#11 - 2014-05-29 11:49:56 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
wait -- don't (market) taxes work the same way as most of the others --> 6.67 and you're at zero (for that half, still need accounting/broker relations/etc)?


no

BrokerFee % = (1.000 % – 0.050 % × BrokerRelationsSkillLevel) / 2 ^ (0.1400 × FactionStanding + 0.06000 × CorporationStanding)

You need both faction and corp standing at 10 to have 0 broker fee.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.

Oraac Ensor
#12 - 2014-05-29 11:58:00 UTC
Kitty Bear wrote:
Every 6 months you can do the SoE Epic Arc

*3 months*
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-05-29 13:16:18 UTC
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
Every 6 months you can do the SoE Epic Arc

*3 months*


really ?

lol, I thought it was on a 6 month cycle

makes the process slightly faster then Big smile
Velicitia
XS Tech
#14 - 2014-05-29 13:16:23 UTC
gfldex wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
wait -- don't (market) taxes work the same way as most of the others --> 6.67 and you're at zero (for that half, still need accounting/broker relations/etc)?


no

BrokerFee % = (1.000 % – 0.050 % × BrokerRelationsSkillLevel) / 2 ^ (0.1400 × FactionStanding + 0.06000 × CorporationStanding)

You need both faction and corp standing at 10 to have 0 broker fee.


yay for maths \o/

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
#15 - 2014-05-29 13:40:02 UTC
Quote:
What is the fastest possible way to get high standing with a faction?

This

(I cannot believe no one linked the faction standing repair plan. Shocked)
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-05-29 14:30:38 UTC
1) Pick a corporation to raise standings with
2) Get 1000 of your closest friends to do security missions
3) Share rewards
4) ???
5) Profit!
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-05-29 14:46:28 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
Quote:
Faction warefare will make half of the Eve your enemy. Who can shot you even in high sec without CONCORD interferience. Which means serious problem with logistic. So ono your place I would forget about FW and go do tutorial missions for each 12 sets of agents in Eve.


Roll

OP's subject: What is the fastest possible way to get high standings with a faction?

If you just want the standings, you join that faction, run a few missions, and then leave FW. Then, you join the allied faction, and do the same. The rate at which you can run FW missions, and the size of the boosts you get from promotions, makes it really quite without equal for quickly raising standings.

http://imgur.com/Q3fer2U

(I was already at rank 3, so the first/smallest adjustment is 3->4 and the largest was 8-9).

All told, those took about 3 or 4 hours of work, and the adjustments are basically enormous compared to pretty much anything except an epic arc.

The only real hitch is that you need, or at least really, really want, a stealth bomber, but if you can fulfill that criteria, FW promotions will absolutely crush any other means of raising standing that I'm aware of, in terms of adjustment-for-time-invested.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-05-29 15:09:41 UTC
gfldex wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
wait -- don't (market) taxes work the same way as most of the others --> 6.67 and you're at zero (for that half, still need accounting/broker relations/etc)?


no

BrokerFee % = (1.000 % – 0.050 % × BrokerRelationsSkillLevel) / 2 ^ (0.1400 × FactionStanding + 0.06000 × CorporationStanding)

You need both faction and corp standing at 10 to have 0 broker fee.
Nitpick: While the formula is correct, the lowest possible broker fee is 0.1875% (with max standings and skill), not 0.
And yes, you do need both standings at 10 for the 0.1875% broker fee.

With both standings at 9, it's 0.2154%, which might or might not be worth the long grind to 10. (It takes nine time as long to get from 5 to 9.99 than from 0 to 5.)
Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#19 - 2014-05-29 15:41:15 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Quote:
Faction warefare will make half of the Eve your enemy. Who can shot you even in high sec without CONCORD interferience. Which means serious problem with logistic. So ono your place I would forget about FW and go do tutorial missions for each 12 sets of agents in Eve.


Roll

OP's subject: What is the fastest possible way to get high standings with a faction?

If you just want the standings, you join that faction, run a few missions, and then leave FW. Then, you join the allied faction, and do the same. The rate at which you can run FW missions, and the size of the boosts you get from promotions, makes it really quite without equal for quickly raising standings.

http://imgur.com/Q3fer2U

(I was already at rank 3, so the first/smallest adjustment is 3->4 and the largest was 8-9).

All told, those took about 3 or 4 hours of work, and the adjustments are basically enormous compared to pretty much anything except an epic arc.

The only real hitch is that you need, or at least really, really want, a stealth bomber, but if you can fulfill that criteria, FW promotions will absolutely crush any other means of raising standing that I'm aware of, in terms of adjustment-for-time-invested.



Yeah. Actually running FW missions are much faster than the epic arc, even. If cash is no object and you don't care about the opposing or pirate factions, buying FW standing turnins is the fastest way to go by a long shot.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-05-29 17:59:09 UTC
Miriya Zakalwe wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Quote:
Faction warefare will make half of the Eve your enemy. Who can shot you even in high sec without CONCORD interferience. Which means serious problem with logistic. So ono your place I would forget about FW and go do tutorial missions for each 12 sets of agents in Eve.


Roll

OP's subject: What is the fastest possible way to get high standings with a faction?

If you just want the standings, you join that faction, run a few missions, and then leave FW. Then, you join the allied faction, and do the same. The rate at which you can run FW missions, and the size of the boosts you get from promotions, makes it really quite without equal for quickly raising standings.

http://imgur.com/Q3fer2U

(I was already at rank 3, so the first/smallest adjustment is 3->4 and the largest was 8-9).

All told, those took about 3 or 4 hours of work, and the adjustments are basically enormous compared to pretty much anything except an epic arc.

The only real hitch is that you need, or at least really, really want, a stealth bomber, but if you can fulfill that criteria, FW promotions will absolutely crush any other means of raising standing that I'm aware of, in terms of adjustment-for-time-invested.



Yeah. Actually running FW missions are much faster than the epic arc, even. If cash is no object and you don't care about the opposing or pirate factions, buying FW standing turnins is the fastest way to go by a long shot.



Yep, it's really not even close. Just extrapolating from my own bumps, going from rank 1 to rank 10 within a militia should take a character from 0 standing to right around 7, and is something that could be accomplished in a matter of hours.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

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