EVE General Discussion

Oh holy balls, what a terrible thing to do to a newbie.

You know what the value of a ship is? However much it hurts for you to lose it.

I mean, that entire lesson pointless if you just don't mine. You can find a battleship in a day or two of running level 4s or doing just about any other isk-making activity.

OP, don't join a corp that basically tells you "You must suffer for X days before we'll let you have fun."

That was sort of the lesson.

This was back in the days that ships really were not for sale in most of low sec and not at all in null, and of they were they were a 200% markup at least if you found them. So the corp had to provide ships if they were lost (because none of us could afford Battleship bpos on our own). This meant the logistics wing had to do all the mining etc to keep the pvpers in ships, or make the run through Gonditsa from Yulai to buy them. And there was always fighting going on. This was the big buildup in Aridia right before the BoB/FA war.

Tell me about it, Eve was my first, haven't found another that can hold my attention for more than a couple of months.

Don't get me wrong. I love Eve. But one of the issues, for me at least, is the lack of quality sci-fi/spaceship mmo's out there to compare it to (vapourware doesn't count lol.) Currently Eve is in a league of it's own in that regard.

Edit: i loathe high fantasy of any type, which eliminates 99% of the mmo market for me.

Whatever number of corp mates the info has divide that by 2 just to get a starting figure. Everyone has alts so the corp numbers are automatically misleading. If the corp is a few months old, its already got inactive players. So you gotta just kind of factor off the remaining members with a wild guess.

If a corp advertises as being active in all timezones, and in all areas of space (hisec, lowsec, nullsec, wormholes), then they are active only in 1 TZ and only in hisec, and most of their members have probably quit Eve already.

I like to shoot things, so the only thing that is important to me is their killboard. Doesn't really matter if it is red or green (losses/wins) so much as there is stuff on it. Whatever pilots you see on their killboard, that is who is active in corp. If its the same 3 or 4 guys, thats all there is in the corp.

So check out eve-who.com and zkillboard.com for any corp you are thinking about joining.

I've never Understood the Tippia hate mongers.

I always enjoy reading Tippia's posts. I don't always agree with them (rare), but I really admire that they have a constant tone regardless of what is hurled in response, and that I find it really hard to argue with the logic and facts presented.

I think Tippia has some green Vulcan blood.

Back on topic: I find Brave Newbies Inc. really attractive as a corp, as their stated goal is to have fun regardless of the outcome.

KINGS OF LOWSEC

(Join Snuff Box)

You can give a newbie a ship and skills and all and she/he will play for a day.
Teach a newbie how to EVE and and he/she will play for life :).

I know because i spent years dong ... well just about nothing. But, you keep training, you keep learning, and one day you will indeed find what you are looking for.
Having said that, try not to jump too many corps. That stuff raises flags, because it gives impression of being a flake.

My advice, such as it is, is to be picky at the start. Not picky in a way where you will keep rejecting corporations on every little thing. But rather be picky in a way where you ask a lot of questions before you join. Make sure you click with folks in corp and that the corp is something you would like to be a part of !!!
Ask very pointedly as to how many players are on during this period of time. It is fairly easy to see when people are talking crap. Also check the age of corp. Check killboards, check corp roster ..... it is a lot of work, but in the end you will be much happier once you do find a corporation that fits you, rather then jump from one to another because you could not be bothered.

Get some training under your belt and join a large null sec alliance corp. ...one you can trust (read not goons as Mitanni has already stated that they do not care to recruit in game as much as scam those to try to join)

While i realize that the above comment is not really serious i want to comment anyway, because its partly right.

There is a lot of people that will yell and scream about long employment histories, saying that if you have been in more then 4 corporations in less then 5 years your obviously a spy and so on, however, many of the people who do this is often also the kind of people that freaks out because someone has a bounty on them (come on, anyone who has a bounty must be bad person right ), or thinks that just because the person in question once shot a MTU he is a pirate.

Recruiters tend to be paranoid, as they should be, but sometimes the paranoia goes a bit to far. This especially seems to be the case with "new" recruiters. New enough to not fully understand what to look for, but old enough to have experienced their first corp theft or awoxer.

However, recruiters who has been around for a while (or just happen to be really good at reading people and trust their gut feeling) tend to be better at judging the potential recruit on more then their employment history. Of course it might raise a red flag if a recruit has been in 20 corporations during the past year, but chances are that if the recruit in question has a good attitude, seems like a good fit, all other back ground checks dont reveal anything suspicious and have a valid story (true or not) that explains the amount of corporations, the recruiter will give the person a chance.

In some cases this happens even if the person has a shady back ground. Again, it all depends on the recruits attitude, and the recruiters feeling about said recruit.

In the long run.. No matter how much research you do on a person, the gut feeling is what decides whether or not the recruit is accepted into the corporation.