Ships & Modules

Hello my fellow Capsuleers,

I am a newer player and while I'm great at playing with the markets (I'm good with numbers) I have literally no skill in fitting, now ATM I am a week old I think, so my skills aren't intensive in all area's but if it has anything do do with Caldari support skills it's on level 3, and missile skills are up there too, my goal is a Golem for those of you who haven't seen my posts on this forum yet, but in the mean time I am running a Raven (in 7 hours to be exact), and a Noctis, I will write up under this what I am thinking of running and why and then it's up to you guys to shoot it down and burn it and tell me what I should be doing, keep in mind I only want a Cruise Raven, I don't like Torpedo's unfortunately.

Noctis - New Begginings

When I run this I'm with my corp as rear guard (one room behind them, looting and salvaging).

High:
6 Salvagers (T1)
2 Small Tractor Beams (T1)

Medium:
2 Cap Stabilisers (T1)

Low:
3 Cargo Extenders (T1)

Rigs:
I don't have any idea what Rigs help it.. And I don't need defensive ability at all, so I'm at a loss..

So yeah, this is my Noctis, I carry a Mobile Tracing unit as well which I find speeds things up a lot, so, what do you guys think? Is this an alright room sweeper if running with a corp? Let me know your thoughts

Raven - Clear Skies

High:
6 Cruise Missile Launchers, Precision
2 Neuts

Medium:
1 Large Shield Booster
1 Shield Amp
1 Large Shield Extender
2 Invuns
(And if I have 6 slots then a Cap Stabilizer)

Low:
4 Ballistic Control System

So basically I want both Gank and Tank, but I want to focus more on the defensive side of things, so let me know what you think and what you like, and if it is possible to make it Cap Stable then let me know, thank you guys!

Hey, thanks for the reply,

Unfortunately Those fitting services don't tell me anything about if it actually works well, why I should run X over a Y, and the list goes on, that's why I was asking, and before you tell me to read the comments on fits on BattleClinic, I have and all they are is arguments about "torps are awesome and crusies suck" and note the lack of a reason why Cruise missiles suck, that's why I am asking here, so I can work this stuff out so it is actually a discussion and not this is better, hands down

Medium Salvage Tackle is, I think, the name of the rig you want.

If memory serves, my Noctis had 5 Tractors and 3 Salvages. You want more tractors than Salvagers at any rate.

An MWD is very nice to have.

...

I'll just do the fit.

Noctis

3x Salavager I
5x Tractor

MWD
? - Can't remember what I had here, probably Cap Recharger.

3x Cargo Expander

3x Medium Salvage Tackle

You're either trolling or a really misguided noob about to be in for a sad day when you lose your ship...

30 days to get in a Raven you're not ready but can survive if you're careful... 7 days and 7 hours you're going to go pop

Hmmm, this reminds me of something.

I dont recommend fitting cargo expanders, they make you that much easier to gank and they are rarely needed.

You got exactly that.



So the point in throwing Raven fits at you *now* (which would prove useless to you at this stage) would be?

There are a ton of Raven load outs floating around, but if they mean nothing to you . . .

And you can be insta-taught what's what, right here in this thread (with absolutely no honest effort on your part), but until you've *used* (and flown) the requisite mods and ships respectively, that come *before* any battleship, then the information you'll be given here will be of limited use, because you won't understand it contextually.



Then shouldn't you be asking for (at most) cruiser fits instead?



Oh god.



You're being done a favour.

Friendly advice:

Learn to fly a Frigate.

I wasn't talking about Low-Sec, people (like me) will gank you in Hi-Sec if you are carrying sufficient cargo, and some will just do it for lolz or because you were running your mouth with the wrong people around.

I don't recommend taking a Noctis to low sec until you understand how to survive there and have friends that can provide intel and or come to your rescue.

If you are serious about taking it to low sec I would go more the route of the eve-uni fits that are linked above by Nagamor.

Take a destroyer as your salvager if you will be in low-sec until you can afford to lose a Noctis, because you most certainly will.

I have a bad feeling you bought a bunch of plex, this is never a good idea. If you haven't already cashed them out, hold on to them for at least a few months.

It sounds like you have thought your path through pretty thoroughly and I appreciate that, but you can't possibly understand enough to ignore the advice this thread has provided.

Slow down and start from the beginning. This thread should be about frigates/destroyers and training support skills not how to fit a Noctis and Raven.

Like, all the answers you need are right in your very own posts.

It couldn't be any simpler.

Thanks for explaining that, and yes, i know ganking happens in high sec too, I've almost been a victim one near Jita, haha! I only just managed to last (was just about to go into hull) when CONCORD got off there ass, i was really surprised how much damage he did in such little time.

And fair enough I'll dock here up or take it back to high sec, is the Comoradaunt (sorry for spelling) a good replacement for the mean time? And to be honest the only reason I'm in low sec is cause it's the fastest way to travel between markets, and in a shuttle it is fairly safe, I've been locked a few times, but yeah..

And nope.. I got a PLEX with one of the start packages, but I sold that straight way, haha!

And thank you, and I'm not ignoring it, I'm taking it, to be honest I'm actually writing notes in my EVE book (a book with market calculations and tactics and tips and stuff I'm writing for myself for quick reference, gay i know, but it helps) but the part everyone is missing is i can fly frigates, my Kestrel is all T2 stuff, my shields regen fast, i took enough time into account to give me a frigate that is pretty decent, and once my time boosters get on there last legs (3-5 days left) ill switch training to assault frigates (I'm partial to the Hawk i think it is, it has the same colours as the Golem)

My first post on here was about frigates and it wasn't that helpful, down graded into people telling me what i should and shouldn't fly and why Caldari is a stupid choice, so on so forth, so yeah..

Thank you though, all of you for the advice, I am taking it in, but as I'm sure you can appreciate it i am truing to train things that would normal take a months in the 21 days i have of acceleration, which i think is a good idea, cause that includes all my support skills, which is what every says is important.

I just wanted a hand working out what was better for me to start training (example, I am focusing on long range, so light missile, heavy missile, cruise, citadel, so on, but i wasn't sure if gorps where better and if i should focus on that path for a bit)



I do fly Frigates (this is the 3rd tim in this tread i have said that), my frigate skill is at 5, and all the skills that made it possible for me to have my Kestrel work the way I wanted with T2

And they are aware, but they are mainly Gallente and Minitar Pilots, who tent to be embraces of blasters and dislikers of Missiles, so yeah, there advice was to try and focus on my support skills relevant to caldari (launchers shields cpu, grid, that kidna stuff) at the same time as learn for the Golem.

And I won't be stuck at station, i run Lvl 1 and 2's in my Kestrel and love them, it's fun and challenging, but i am actually really happy flying my Noctis and helping the corp atm, and it gives me a chance to build up extra capital, so i can afford nicer modules, thanks for the advice man!



For the 3rd time, I do fly Frigates, I am very proficient in them, ith most skills at 3-4 regarding them, I don't need help with my Kestrel cause it works amazing as is

If you are absolutely convinced that you must use a battleship right now, and don't mind risking losing one, the Scorpion Navy might be a better choice. It can easily be setup to have an incredibly forgiving tank, and for that reason it tends to be easier for a new player.

I'd recommend waiting at least a week or two to get your support skills up a bit, but it's you whose playing, nothing wrong with taking risks, I suppose.

Also, get an MJD. At low skill levels, that will be your salvation. Rats can keep you from warping, but they can't keep you from MJDing away, after which you can warp out. You can also use the MJD to pull range to reduce incoming damage when you arrive in a mission pocket.