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lack of Gal Mil Civil War

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wilgotna
Perkone
Caldari State
#141 - 2014-05-28 19:55:39 UTC
Lexiana Del'Amore wrote:
Caldari Militia -> small gap <- Gallente Militia -> massive leap <- Snuffbox

No matter how good some Gallente FC's and pilot's think we are, we are still pretty low on the lowsec foodchain...


there is evidence to support that galmil is generally more skilled than calmil

there is NO evidence that snuffbox is generally more skilled than anyone

they simply have the most nerds with the highest sp who can ship into shiny t3s + guards, or dreads

if a nullsec group comes along with snuff box's # of nerds + more, then snuffbox gets wrecked, or doesnt undock
SmokinJs Arthie
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#142 - 2014-05-28 20:25:37 UTC
wilgotna wrote:
there is evidence to support that galmil is generally more skilled than calmil
wilgotna wrote:
galmils competition is just pathetically bad
wilgotna wrote:
HELLO GALLENTE!! your competition is bad at this game!
wilgotna wrote:
we can keep beating around the bush or we can accept that the real problem is that caldari pilots are, on average, not as good at eve as gallente pilots
when i see a caldari dude im thinking, omg here comes a free killmail
when i see khan or (insert any caldari fc here) take out a fleet, i think omg here comes a ton of free killmails
the average gallente pilot is a battle hardened badass killing machine (by FW standards)
the average caldari pilot is like a kid who wears the shoes with the velcro on it because they dont know how to tie laces


Contradicting ourselves much?
wilgotna
Perkone
Caldari State
#143 - 2014-05-28 20:26:53 UTC
SmokinJs Arthie wrote:

Contradicting ourselves much?


learn to read
SmokinJs Arthie
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#144 - 2014-05-28 20:49:57 UTC
I did, yourself and others have state that Gal Mil is generally better the Cal Mil and you double back and say we are not. Also, telling a large portion of Gal Mil to start a civil war or join the other side just to make things better means that one side is too strong and should be split. You're just arguing yourself into circles.
wilgotna
Perkone
Caldari State
#145 - 2014-05-28 20:52:57 UTC  |  Edited by: wilgotna
SmokinJs Arthie wrote:
I did, yourself and others have state that Gal Mil is generally better the Cal Mil and you double back and say we are not. Also, telling a large portion of Gal Mil to start a civil war or join the other side just to make things better means that one side is too strong and should be split. You're just arguing yourself into circles.


i never contradicted myself, learn to read

edit: id like to add that wasting posts just because you cant read is rude to other forum readers/posters
SmokinJs Arthie
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#146 - 2014-05-28 21:02:22 UTC
So you're saying the only reason Gal Mil is good is because we got more nerds?
wilgotna
Perkone
Caldari State
#147 - 2014-05-28 21:07:23 UTC
SmokinJs Arthie wrote:
So you're saying the only reason Gal Mil is good is because we got more nerds?


no, this was already covered by Vesk on page 7.

galmil and snuffbox engage in different types of fighting

galmil does plex fighting and small gang where skill actually matters, kinda

snuffbox does blobs with shiny ships and dreads where skill is meaningless

if you have any more questions please mail me ingame
Veskrashen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#148 - 2014-05-28 21:50:38 UTC
wilgotna wrote:
snuffbox does blobs with shiny ships and dreads where skill is meaningless

Snuff Box's skill comes from the pre-drop preparation, scouting, and logistics it takes to put overwhelming force on field. It's not my style of play - I prefer the clash of wills where the outcome isn't as certain - but to say they're neckbeards who win because of isk is wrong.

Kinda like how I despise blue donut risk aversion, while acknowledging the organizational skill and prep work it takes to put hundreds of caps and supercaps on field.

We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#149 - 2014-05-28 23:40:43 UTC
wilgotna wrote:
SmokinJs Arthie wrote:
So you're saying the only reason Gal Mil is good is because we got more nerds?


no, this was already covered by Vesk on page 7.

galmil and snuffbox engage in different types of fighting

galmil does plex fighting and small gang where skill actually matters, kinda

snuffbox does blobs with shiny ships and dreads where skill is meaningless

if you have any more questions please mail me ingame


Perhaps you should consolidate your point into a new post. Were all very interested in what has made you so upset.
Napoleon Baleine
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#150 - 2014-05-29 02:34:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Napoleon Baleine
wilgotna wrote:
Lexiana Del'Amore wrote:
if a nullsec group comes along with snuff box's # of nerds + more, then snuffbox gets wrecked, or doesnt undock


Nullbears can't pvp in small gangs, especially not in lowsec.

http://i.imgur.com/ujEMc8O.png
Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
#151 - 2014-05-29 13:39:27 UTC
Castnicke Rinah wrote:
Napoleon Baleine wrote:
Castnicke Rinah wrote:
A smart man once told me faction warfare is all about being able to reship constantly, throwing yourself into battle over and over again until your enemy is out of ships..


PERUNGA? :)


No, it was most definitely not Perunga.


It was XG.


I am going to say that you said X-perunGa then both heroes are given credit.

Blasters for life

https://neverpheedthetroll.blogspot.com
Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
#152 - 2014-05-29 13:42:40 UTC
Lexiana Del'Amore wrote:
If Crosi did not have a boosting alt i doubt many would even accept him into fleet...


I would.

Crosi is me personal hero. I believe that the liberated child of Nisuwa should name their children after her.

Blasters for life

https://neverpheedthetroll.blogspot.com
Shelom Severasse
Legion Ascending
Fraternity.
#153 - 2014-05-29 19:16:36 UTC
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
Napoleon Baleine wrote:
Castnicke Rinah wrote:
A smart man once told me faction warfare is all about being able to reship constantly, throwing yourself into battle over and over again until your enemy is out of ships..


PERUNGA? :)


nope

i remember being on comms when than said this
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#154 - 2014-05-29 22:01:00 UTC
Shelom Severasse wrote:
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
Napoleon Baleine wrote:
Castnicke Rinah wrote:
A smart man once told me faction warfare is all about being able to reship constantly, throwing yourself into battle over and over again until your enemy is out of ships..


PERUNGA? :)


nope

i remember being on comms when than said this


I was just repeating XG.

JUSTK is recruiting
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#155 - 2014-05-29 22:50:40 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
Shelom Severasse wrote:

i remember being on comms when than said this

I was just repeating XG.

No, I said the key is to welp your fleets into the other side until they run out of ammo. Then you kill them and take the plex. Works against everybody except Amarr and some of those damn drone based tristan fleets (if we can't kill their drones fast enough).
Beardon
CRIME CRIME
#156 - 2014-06-01 17:19:54 UTC
These threads tend to go the same way (like this one has): one side compares their best to the other sides worst... A corp/alliance centric Gallente fleet rolling out in doctrine ships vs a kitchen sink fleet pulled together with the dregs of militia pubbies. Of course galmil's best and brightest are way better than our worst and dimmest, but that's not really fair to those in calmil who actually step up. Nor do these types of comparisons don't capture what's actually going on in the warzone. For example, Templis rolls out in doctrine cruiser fleets with decent regularity and have great fights against you guys, but these aren't being taken into account with the galmil circlejerk.

Now, calmil has a much crappier baseline than galmil because we attract a lot more farmer types. But I'm sure all of us can distinguish between pubbies and actual fighting groups, and I really wish that the focus would be on the latter instead of rolling us all into one. You don't really have to make this distinction with galmil because it's a horrible farming militia; Galmil has a much stronger baseline than us in Calmil largely because state pro is just awful. Those who enter state pro to farm with thumbs up their asses shouldn't be taken as a reflection of those who actually learn to roll against the big dogs. Hell, I'm not even denying that galmil's fighting force is better than ours; you guys are pretty damn good at what you do and are probably better in general. I just don't feel that those of us who actually try are being well represented. We're not all farmers you know... Believe it or not, Calmil hates Calmil farmers as much as you guys do. Cry
wilgotna
Perkone
Caldari State
#157 - 2014-06-01 20:51:09 UTC  |  Edited by: wilgotna
Beardon wrote:
These threads tend to go the same way (like this one has): one side compares their best to the other sides worst... A corp/alliance centric Gallente fleet rolling out in doctrine ships vs a kitchen sink fleet pulled together with the dregs of militia pubbies. Of course galmil's best and brightest are way better than our worst and dimmest, but that's not really fair to those in calmil who actually step up. Nor do these types of comparisons don't capture what's actually going on in the warzone. For example, Templis rolls out in doctrine cruiser fleets with decent regularity and have great fights against you guys, but these aren't being taken into account with the galmil circlejerk.

Now, calmil has a much crappier baseline than galmil because we attract a lot more farmer types. But I'm sure all of us can distinguish between pubbies and actual fighting groups, and I really wish that the focus would be on the latter instead of rolling us all into one. You don't really have to make this distinction with galmil because it's a horrible farming militia; Galmil has a much stronger baseline than us in Calmil largely because state pro is just awful. Those who enter state pro to farm with thumbs up their asses shouldn't be taken as a reflection of those who actually learn to roll against the big dogs. Hell, I'm not even denying that galmil's fighting force is better than ours; you guys are pretty damn good at what you do and are probably better in general. I just don't feel that those of us who actually try are being well represented. We're not all farmers you know... Believe it or not, Calmil hates Calmil farmers as much as you guys do. Cry


nobody is comparing the best of galmil to the worst of calmil

i am comparing the average galmil pilot to the average calmil pilot (this does not even factor in farmers)

furthermore...

if i think of calmil i can name 4 good soloists off the top of my head: diana and ibanez, and ibanez freaking quit the militia, qjuu defected and joined gallente (lol), greg01 quit the game as far as i know - this leaves only ONE remaining

if i think of galmil i can easily name 10 good soloists, and id probably be forgetting a lot of them

sure i gotta give props to templis to bringing out doctrine fleets, but do you win often if ever? your alliance's efficiency speaks for itself
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#158 - 2014-06-01 21:35:47 UTC
wilgotna wrote:
if i think of galmil i can easily name 10 good soloists, and id probably be forgetting a lot of them

There's 20 good soloists in QCATS alone.
Josclyn Verreuil
Dark 0rder.
#159 - 2014-06-01 23:14:15 UTC
wilgotna wrote:


if i think of calmil i can name 4 good soloists off the top of my head: diana and ibanez, and ibanez freaking quit the militia, qjuu defected and joined gallente (lol), greg01 quit the game as far as i know - this leaves only ONE remaining


Fairly certain that I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen Diana soloing without her links.

That's not solo, wil.
JAF Anders
Adenosine Inhibition
#160 - 2014-06-02 00:08:39 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
wilgotna wrote:
if i think of galmil i can easily name 10 good soloists, and id probably be forgetting a lot of them

There's 20 good soloists in QCATS alone.


Oh, go on =P

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