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Dev blog: Alliance Tournament XII - Signups, format, and rules

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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2014-05-28 13:36:27 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
We are thrilled to inform you that signups for the epic Alliance Tournament XII are about to open on May 30th! The annual Alliance Tournament is an exciting tournament for alliances to fight for eternal glory, fame and fantastic prizes - for spectators it is a most entertaining spectacle and shouldn't be missed at all!

Read all about the Alliance Tournament XII rules, the format and especially the signups in CCP Gargant's latest blog Alliance Tournament XII - Signups, format, and rules.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer
CCP Gargant
C C P
C C P Alliance
#2 - 2014-05-28 13:37:50 UTC
Keeping things interesting is key, we believe. Fozzie is also an evil genius, letting him loose once in a while yields fun results.

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Nicen Jehr
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#3 - 2014-05-28 13:43:39 UTC
it just won't be the same without bro and dolan :'(

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l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#4 - 2014-05-28 13:50:24 UTC
Will the 3rd place get a price this time? Or still just 1 und 2?
I would love a small amount of AT frigs for the 3rd place.

Why did you still chose to do it with the help of the silent auction? Many people did not like it last time.

Also:
Game of Sins.

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BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#5 - 2014-05-28 13:51:47 UTC  |  Edited by: BadAssMcKill
What's with the MJD structures

I do like the points values of the Domi/Ishtar though
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#6 - 2014-05-28 13:59:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Harvey James
LOL at the domi being 1 point higher than other T1 battleships and Navy battleships...
ishtar at 2 points higher lol ....

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Steph Livingston
Neko's Blanket
#7 - 2014-05-28 14:02:14 UTC
With the heavy limitations on RR it looks like there isn't much point in fielding a Nestor in any line-ups. Understandable, but it's a pity that it was re-balanced to be a heavy RR ship and people still have little or no interest in it.
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#8 - 2014-05-28 14:04:30 UTC
Steph Livingston wrote:
With the heavy limitations on RR it looks like there isn't much point in fielding a Nestor in any line-ups. Understandable, but it's a pity that it was re-balanced to be a heavy RR ship and people still have little or no interest in it.


We place some fairly significant restrictions on RR and tanking in general for the tournaments, since it's a lot more entertaining if we skew the fights a bit more towards damage rather than tanking.

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Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
#9 - 2014-05-28 14:10:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Last Wolf
Quote:
Marauder - 26
Battleship, Pirate Faction – 20
Dominix - 20
Battleship, Navy Faction - 19
Battleship (other than the Dominix) - 17
Black Ops Battleship - 17
Command Ship - 16
Strategic Cruiser - 16
Recon Ship - 14
Battlecruiser, Navy Faction – 14
Ishtar - 14
Battlecruiser (including the Gnosis) - 13
Logistics Cruiser - 13
Heavy Assault Cruiser (other than the Ishtar) - 12
Cruiser, Faction - 12
Heavy Interdictor - 11
Tech 1 Support Cruiser - 10
Cruiser - 6
Electronic Attack Frigate - 6
Frigate, Faction - 4
Assault Frigate - 4
Tech 1 Disruption Frigate – 4
Covert Ops Ship - 4
Interdictor – 4
Stealth Bomber - 4
Interceptor - 3
Destroyer - 3
Tech 1 Industrial Ships - 3
Frigate - 2


Doesn't this kind of point out how overpowered the domi and ishtar are?

EDIT: better idea, instead of these two ships costing more points, why not ban sentry drones from the tournament?

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Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#10 - 2014-05-28 14:12:15 UTC
Last Wolf wrote:
Quote:
Marauder - 26
Battleship, Pirate Faction – 20
Dominix - 20
Battleship, Navy Faction - 19
Battleship (other than the Dominix) - 17
Black Ops Battleship - 17
Command Ship - 16
Strategic Cruiser - 16
Recon Ship - 14
Battlecruiser, Navy Faction – 14
Ishtar - 14
Battlecruiser (including the Gnosis) - 13
Logistics Cruiser - 13
Heavy Assault Cruiser (other than the Ishtar) - 12
Cruiser, Faction - 12
Heavy Interdictor - 11
Tech 1 Support Cruiser - 10
Cruiser - 6
Electronic Attack Frigate - 6
Frigate, Faction - 4
Assault Frigate - 4
Tech 1 Disruption Frigate – 4
Covert Ops Ship - 4
Interdictor – 4
Stealth Bomber - 4
Interceptor - 3
Destroyer - 3
Tech 1 Industrial Ships - 3
Frigate - 2


Doesn't this kind of point out how overpowered the domi and ishtar are?


indeed .. the drone changes might help a little .. mainly garde dps reduction ...
i'm curious as too whether the T3 rebalance will be done by then .. along with recons

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#11 - 2014-05-28 14:17:23 UTC
Last Wolf wrote:

Doesn't this kind of point out how overpowered the domi and ishtar are?

EDIT: better idea, instead of these two ships costing more points, why not ban sentry drones from the tournament?

No it does not. Because some ships are better in a Tournament envourment than on TQ.
You can't measure balance with the help of AT performance.

I am not saying that those ships are overpowered or not, just that you can't measure it this way. It's a biiiig no no.

As for your edit: Take a look at NEO II and see for yourself wish good team used Sentries. Not that many if I remember correctly.

@Fozzie:
Prices for 3rd place, pretty please?

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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#12 - 2014-05-28 14:24:01 UTC
Even in a hypothetical world where ship balance was 100% perfect for all non-tournament activities, some ships would still be more suited to the tournament environment than others.
Bonused sentry drones are just about the perfect weapon for a 125km radius arena and the MJUs would have magnified the effectiveness of Ishtars if we had left their point costs alone.

We never make ship balance changes for the tournament context, and tournament rule changes do not have any direct implications for ship balance in non-tournament enviroments.

I'm not saying that Ishtars are perfectly balanced, but good arguments about general ship balance can't be made from looking at tournament performance.

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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#13 - 2014-05-28 14:29:03 UTC
Drone skill DB script has not yet been run, causing Light and Medium drones to be currently unusable.

Can we get the new drone skills seeded somewhere on Sisi so we can use Medium combat drones? Or will the above known issue be changedf soon(tm)?
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#14 - 2014-05-28 14:31:53 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Steph Livingston wrote:
With the heavy limitations on RR it looks like there isn't much point in fielding a Nestor in any line-ups. Understandable, but it's a pity that it was re-balanced to be a heavy RR ship and people still have little or no interest in it.


We place some fairly significant restrictions on RR and tanking in general for the tournaments, since it's a lot more entertaining if we skew the fights a bit more towards damage rather than tanking.


I was wondering how you were going to handle the Nestor. To my understanding of the rules, you can field it but cannot put remote repair or remote shield rep modules on it since it is a Pirate Faction Battleship and not on the approved RR list of "a Logistics Ship, a Strategic Cruiser, a Tech 1 Support Cruiser; or on up to TWO Tech 1 Support Frigates"

Poor Nestor, still useless. :)

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#15 - 2014-05-28 14:33:40 UTC
woohoo, another AT. Can't wait to watch it, although I do kinda wish I was participating in some capacity (ah well that will have to wait for XIII which is something of a lucky number for me).

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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#16 - 2014-05-28 14:34:04 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Drone skill DB script has not yet been run, causing Light and Medium drones to be currently unusable.

Can we get the new drone skills seeded somewhere on Sisi so we can use Medium combat drones? Or will the above known issue be changedf soon(tm)?


This should have been fixed last night.

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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#17 - 2014-05-28 14:48:13 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Drone skill DB script has not yet been run, causing Light and Medium drones to be currently unusable.

Can we get the new drone skills seeded somewhere on Sisi so we can use Medium combat drones? Or will the above known issue be changedf soon(tm)?


This should have been fixed last night.


I haven't logged into Sisi since Saturday, so I didn't notice yet. Yall are my heros!!! Thank you!!!
Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#18 - 2014-05-28 14:51:26 UTC
Pray for duality
Gosti Kahanid
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#19 - 2014-05-28 14:56:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Gosti Kahanid
So the first Weekend overlapps with the GamesCom in Germany...
This could be a problem for those who want to participate in the Tournament, but already bought the cards for the GC... The GamesCom still is a big gaming-event in Europe...
Turelus
Utassi Security
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#20 - 2014-05-28 15:08:23 UTC
Duality test server for teams with locked systems again please.
This really let each team who used it play with new mechanics and theories last year without the annoyance and hassle of finding wormholes, cancelling training because of spies in local etc.

If players want to use the metagame for Tournaments make them do so via TQ means not test servers.

Turelus CEO Utassi Security
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