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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-05-27 23:28:39 UTC
That's right. Every graphics-intensive game I play seems to run just fine in the absence of the thing, with only my onboard video. That monster is just a glorified space-heater after all.

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Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-05-28 01:11:33 UTC
Can I have it?

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-05-28 01:19:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
trade for a Moros

kidding though - even though it's not an excellent card it still has a monetary value greater than a Moros

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Doreen Kaundur
#4 - 2014-05-28 08:23:11 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
That's right. Every graphics-intensive game I play seems to run just fine in the absence of the thing, with only my onboard video. That monster is just a glorified space-heater after all.


Post some specs..Im curious to see what your onboard video is and what your card is.

Also, what games and settings are you using?

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2014-05-28 08:57:16 UTC
Interval One in the graphic settings.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-05-28 10:14:16 UTC
onboard video: ATI Radeon HD 3300 Graphics
Internal DAC(400MHz)
Memory: ~700MB

I don't have the card with me, I'll have to get its stats later.

I run EVE and WoW just fine on the onboard video with comfortably high settings. I set them as high as I can even tell the difference. I haven't tried Minecraft or SWTOR yet, but those would give a better comparison since they can actually stress the card on high enough settings. EVE can too, but only in a big fleet battle.

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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-05-28 10:18:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Debora Tsung
According to wikipedia that one's from 2008... Not a Monster anymore I guess. Straight

EDIT: whops, didn't see that the 3300 You were talking about was your onboard card.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#8 - 2014-05-28 11:07:46 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
That's right. Every graphics-intensive game I play.

could you expand on this?

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-05-28 12:08:42 UTC
I already did

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Xtreem
Knockaround Guys Inc.
#10 - 2014-05-28 12:12:14 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
I already did



Eve and WoW are not very graphics intensive, but yes if you only play those games then onboard HD card will most likely be fine.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-05-28 12:32:44 UTC
Kinda makes me wonder, then, why the big beefy card I paid good money for has significant difficulty with similar games on high settings.

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Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-05-28 12:50:51 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Kinda makes me wonder, then, why the big beefy card I paid good money for has significant difficulty with similar games on high settings.


Maybe it's just broken? Lol

On the other hand, we can't really tell until we know what "Monster" Card you're talking about.

I remember when the Diamond Monster used to be good, even if it's a tad underperforming right now.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-05-28 13:17:04 UTC
the beefy card is a Radeon HD 5770.
I know it isn't a particularly modern card, but I call it beefy because it's big and it has a rather large fan on it. I also called it a space heater because it can warm up a small room.

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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-05-28 13:30:55 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
the beefy card is a Radeon HD 5770.
I know it isn't a particularly modern card, but I call it beefy because it's big and it has a rather large fan on it. I also called it a space heater because it can warm up a small room.


Ok, looks like that one is from 2009 and also not in ATi's high end segment of that series. BUT, that still doesn't explain why an even older even lower tier onboard accelerator has a higher performance than your 5770.

Did You overheat Your card at any particular point in the past or any powerr outages? Because that sometimes can trigger a somewhat slow but steady drop in performance.

Other than that, it could also be a problem with your mainboard. Turning off your onboard card in your bios might help with the performance of it's big nomad brother. Straight ... Lol, at least it used to, it's ages past since I've last had a Mainboard with an onboard graphics accelerator. xD

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-05-28 13:41:16 UTC
not higher performance, just not significantly lower

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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-05-28 13:59:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Debora Tsung
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
not higher performance, just not significantly lower


Ah, k. Sorry, I thought you said it had a higher performance. Reading failure 101. xD

What You're desribing is actually not unusual.

Neither for ATi/AMD nor for Nvidia cards.

For example, A few years ago I bought a Nvidia GTX460 graphics accelerator, most interestingly that one has more performance than the GTX540 and almost the same performance as the GTX640 if not better (that is actually quite hilarious if you think about it).

That's because in the last few years the performance gaps between each generation have become pretty slim (by design I imagine).

If I now wanted a noticeable better card than my GT460 I'd have to use at least a GTX660, a card two generations younger, also located in nvidias high performance segment of that series.

I imagine AMD would do the same since they have to compete with Nvidia.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#17 - 2014-05-28 14:40:16 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
I already did

Did you?TwistedBlink
Nothing you mentioned is particularly heavy on the gpu.
Don't get me wrong here, Great games just not exactly taxing, I've a 7750 in mine and while it's actually overkill on most of your list, it really struggles with something like skyrim with any amount of gfx mods or something like bf4, in both cases I'll get maby 30-40 fps and it still hasn't forgiven me for attempting metro last light.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-05-29 02:54:28 UTC
I can run Skyrim fine. The FPS is low but it's at least 20-30 FPS during action. Have you got mods installed to reduce the memory hogging of the textures? The stock game was horribly optimized.

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2014-05-29 08:50:13 UTC
my last rig used an HD 5770... the one with eyefinity (not the reference model)

make sure you've disabled your onboard video via system->device manager

process goes:

1. remove video card

2. start computer with monitor plugged into onboard video

3. system -> device manager -> graphics adapters (or something)

-> disable

screen will go black, restart any way you choose
(practice ctr alt del and up/down arrow keys to select "shut down")

4. install video card

5. restart computer with monitor plugged into video card and ONLY the video card

you will not restart the computer with anything plugged into the on-board graphics output,

you cannot use multiple monitors with onboard graphics AND graphics card

pick one or the other


the 5770 is still sold in mac pros, it's fine for 3 clients on max.

and use interval immediate. opens the throttle.

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2014-05-29 08:52:40 UTC
I only use interval one when i want to sync the clients at 30 fps to some other program like fraps or twitch streams.

sorry shahfluffers your donut holder thing was epic but interval one changes nothing in this case

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