Warfare & Tactics

let me link you some real fits that people use out here. http://i.imgur.com/k8EAukD.jpg http://i.imgur.com/nxPz7Qw.jpg guardian and augoror fits that actually used in our warzone.

now heres them repping a basic cruiser with standard tank http://i.imgur.com/rjSvgCH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WPR77lW.jpg

Augoror is much more cost effective. half the ehp of a guardian, augoror repping power is 81% as effective as a guardian on normal ships. Not to mention the augoror is more neut resistant than the guardian.

Self repping ofc gets way higher rep values and really depends on each tank setup of the self rep.

30kehp on an augoror nothing will kill this in a hurry infact the only time weve lost these its trying to warp in several. if your already on field prelocked and all nothing will break this in a hurry.

Well yeah, if you misuse EWAR then of course it's not reliable. When **** ran Amarr fleets, we swept the field most of the time against superior logi numbers because we had the EWAR contingent on field to destabilize them. You'd be surprised how effective a "backwards mechanic" like jams can be when every successful jam cycle is backed by a few Celestises scan res damping the logi targets down to where they can't regain lock on anything for upwards of a minute. There's no difference between not being able to rep something because you're capped out, and not being able to rep something because you're damped out; the net result is the same.

IMHO the reason we don't see mighty public militia cruiser fleets these days is because that requires a balance between the three roles: DPS, logi, EWAR. You can always fill the DPS ranks with militia randoms, and corpmates will often volunteer for logi, but DPS and logi do not a fleet make because at best you'll just be locked in a stalemate with a decent counter fleet unless you bring the EWAR necessary to destabilize the other side's logi.

Not all that much EWAR is needed to counter logi. You just need quality EWAR pilots. For instance, throwing 3-4 Blackbirds at an enemy with 3 Guardians means jack **** if the BB pilots just approach the enemy and derp a herp. Might as well toss those nerds into DPS ships.

Now, if you have one, maybe two, skilled Falcon pilots who take advantage of the element of surprise and the X/Y/Z field they're fighting on, you can easily dunk nerds. Like, I'll see ewar show up warping into a field..from a gate..or something silly. Said ewar will be like, a cloak capable Falcon. Why the hell would you rush in to a bad situation like then when you could warp to a tac or other celestial, come in cloaked at to absolute maximum range and OPPOSITE to the allied fleet, and ewar from there. The enemy will either have to split up, making blasting them easier, or warp off.

Yet people keep warping ewar at ZERO.

WHY.

WHY YOU DO THIS.

Our augs all have 124 ss with no overload. You can jam them, but it's going to take time.

So, if it's going to take time you need logi yourself. So you need logi, dps and the ewar. Going in outnumbered is becoming less and less viable thanks to the cheap logi ships.

But oh sure, in equal sized fleets it's fun to duke it out.

i may have fudged the numbers a bit but its 230 sensor strenght http://i.imgur.com/wv2xAih.jpg once you overload a falcon will have a fun time jamming 311 sensor strength.

HG grails are included since in FW we get heavily discounted sensor implants
this is not ideal. this is our standard fleets. and i would assume minmatar have very similar standard fleets.

PLEASE fly those ships and then get bumped by anyone with a clue. Sensor damps > sensor srength. Also 3 Tornado's will wipe those off the fied then warp out instantly. That cap chain is so unstable that a single broken link will make it all fall over.

This is a self criticism:

Minmatar/Amarr FW zone is completely dominated by farmers. They decide which faction goes to which tier. The warzone will be flipping back to Amarr dominance next week as the prices for minmatar LP store items have already crashed.

All the players you see posting on this thread (including me) are sadly all talk. We have grown complacent and expect people to bring fights to us. We are totally ignoring the occupancy of the systems as long as homebases are not threatened.

Then we blame the game and say that "There is no incentive" or "Logi is too OP" or "You blob too hard". The changes coming with the Kronos patch will change nothing about current situation. Farmers will still farm with minimal player resistance at best. The reputation of FW will stay as FarmWille.

The truth is both sides of our warzone needs fresh recruits....and honestly, if I were a new player and had a slight interest in FW....I would lose that interest after reading this thread.

Sorry about arzad. are we gonna have to take your home system again?

So saith the prophet Zarnak and lo the farmers wives did weep and the plexes were rended salty with their tears!

Or you could ignore my advice and just keep raging at each other.

That's cool too.