Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Not quite extreme enough... We should get rid of person station hangars, too. All your ships will be in a corp hangar. All you items in a corp hangar. All your iskies in a corp wallet. We can have one big communal game.

Look at the bright side, this would eliminate players staying in NPC corps!

Can you imagine the corp bills you'd have to pay in Mission and Trade hubs? Since you don't have a corp hangar until you rent an office, the limits on offices and the scaling rental fees would be insane!

Currently everything in a POS is accessible to the running corp, but there is no coding in the game that says that has to be true. If titans were left in space when the player logged out, the player would still be in that titan, and nobody else could enter it.

I don't see how this suggestion would force supers to become corp assets.

You are correct that you don't have to store the super in a CSMA. If you keep your character in it 100% of the time, you will retain ownership of the super. But, where do you store the "logged off but not despawned" super?

Even the most tanky super is less than 50m EHP, which can be easily destroyed within a single siege cycle by a coordinated drop of 20 dreads. The ONLY way to keep the ship safe, is to prevent it from being attacked. How do you prevent it from being attacked?

The only "in space" location that is impervious to attack is behind a POS FF. However, anyone that gets inside the FF can easily bump it out of the POS FF unless its in a CSMA. Anyone with the critical corp roles can steal it from a CSMA. And in either situation, anyone with access to POS critical roles can simply offline the POS so it can be attacked. As such, while you can retain "ownership" by leaving your character in it, you still need to entrust your corp with its existence, as any corp mate with the critical roles can set up its destruction. The net result is that the number of people responsible for keeping your super safe increases from one (you as the pilot) to all your corp mates with critical roles. I'd argue that pragmatically makes it a corp asset, even if you keep prevent them utilizing it by having a pilot in the super 24/7.

I'm very much in a "death to all supers" mindframe, I just want them to die in combat, and not while the owner is logged off unable to defend it.

That be my issue with this idea. I actually have a life and take vacations...and since I have a kid they usually involve theme parks at some point.

Sorry son...can't go to disney today my pos is dying so have to move the mommie out when not camped hard. Maybe we can go tomorrow. Yep...this is why I paid lots of money to stay at a disney resort, to play eve.


Cool these neck beards take a laptop wherever they go (if they actually leave the house that is). Me...the laptop often stays at home. iPad does me fine for most everything on vacation

While I like the intention it just won't work. It makes bigger alliances have yet another massive advantage over smaller ones. Worse still, players would just warp to a safe spot, cloak, and leave their client running DT to DT if they are in any real danger of loss (i.e during a POS reinforcement timer)

The only way I could see this working is with a 'hibernation' mode that did what logging off does now. But the ship couldn't do anything for 24h once turned off or something (To prevent people using it like logging off is used now). This would give players who sit in a POS the benefit of immediate use when needed, and encourage a little activity/putting yourself at risk for benefit, and allow holiday-goers safety. But it still doesn't solve cloaking or large alliance benefits.

The obvious answer is to allow supers to be anchored. I don't see how this small point negates the original post. If you think allowing them to be anchored is bad, then lets discuss that. Lets brainstorm options, not assume the OP is bad because it doesn't work exactly as described on the tin.

so only the big power blocs can have supers rite? And ofc juicy killmails form others...

Why not nerf small sov holding corps rite away

**** that. If I need to go through the hassle of selling my super, then buying one, moving it, fitting it, etc. every time I want to take even just a week or two off, it is not worth owning one at all.

And you're welcome to take that responsibility. Doesn't change the fact that supers were intended to be something that required the cooperation of an entire network of people to maintain. People have found ways to work around those mechanics, mostly with alts, but that doesn't mean that was CCP's intention.

There are a lot of purist PvPers out there who swear they are the sole creators of content and anyone who isn't doing exactly as they're doing is failing at Eve. One of CCP's ways of creating content was by putting things in the game that required people to interact with each other either positively or negatively, and give them the choice of which it would be today. Supers are one of those things. I find it impressive you maintain yours without relying on other people, but to me that seems a bit like the carebears who stay in high sec because they don't want people shooting at their Raven. There is minimizing risk and then there is hiding from it entirely.