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Visuals during warp make no sense

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Ohhhh Feely Nice
Feely Good Logistics
#1 - 2014-05-27 21:51:31 UTC
If you are travelling at dozens/hundreds of times the speed of light, you should not be able to see the light from the stars and planets so clearly.

As you approach the speed of light things start looking like this http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/faster-speed-of-light-1.jpg

As you pass the speed of light things get very weird. Some theorize you'd see the past unraveling before your eyes. Others claim it's impossible and therefore futile to determine what may happen.

What we can be quite sure of is it certainly wouldn't look the way it does in game.

At the very least please adjust the world of New Eden to look like the linked picture when in warp.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-05-27 21:52:54 UTC
thing is, warp isn't really FTL. it's more akin to space-time bending. You only get the impression that you are travelling faster than light, when in fact, you're bending space-time around you, I think.



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Karen Avioras
The Raging Raccoons
#3 - 2014-05-27 21:54:56 UTC
Just shut off your screen while you're in warp and imagine something else. I quite enjoy looking around.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-05-27 21:59:27 UTC
Next thing you're gonna say is sounds in space? Or how we see overview and brackets in space.

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Lothrus Andastar
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-05-27 22:02:32 UTC
Pod computer is simulating it because otherwise our brains explode from madness.

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#6 - 2014-05-27 22:08:49 UTC
A "warp tunnel" bends the fabric of space to allow you to move at FTL speeds. This is also why you pass through planets and stars.

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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#7 - 2014-05-27 22:11:06 UTC
The capsular interface provides a simulation of the outside universe via ship sensors, a great deal of filtering and enhancement goes on to provide the pilot with essential information without overwhelming him or her. Optical light is only a tiny part of the overall feed and is highly filtered, else flying near the local sun would completely overwhelming as the incredible brightness would overpower all other sensory input.

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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#8 - 2014-05-27 22:15:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
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As you pass the speed of light things get very weird. Some theorize you'd see the past unraveling before your eyes. Others claim it's impossible and therefore futile to determine what may happen.


Not a past, because what we see now from across the universe is in fact past. We would see the universe aging quite fast everywhere we would go with this speeds. And ultimately we would see an end to the stars we are journeying to. We would come to a desolate space. We would see things becoming as they are. Quick journey to the point of actual state of things. Then on the way back we would see how these stars are bright again, on the same sky we see now. A travel in time "to the future and back to the past". But those would be only an images and states like on the film tape. We would be moving only past the velocity of the projector and film will be going on and on, on its own pace.
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#9 - 2014-05-27 22:16:12 UTC
I close my eyes and wish for targets on grid.

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Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#10 - 2014-05-27 22:20:51 UTC
If were gonna get all technical about this isn't the hud supposed to be like the capsuleer looking at a screen?

So the ship computer could just be building that visual based on where you are in system and what the computer knows about the system.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#11 - 2014-05-27 22:28:48 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Quote:
As you pass the speed of light things get very weird. Some theorize you'd see the past unraveling before your eyes. Others claim it's impossible and therefore futile to determine what may happen.


Not a past, because what we see now from across the universe is in fact past. We would see the universe aging quite fast everywhere we would go with this speeds. And ultimately we would see an end to the stars we are journeying to. We would come to a desolate space.


You wouldn't be able to see anything since the only way to achieve anything close to the speed of light is to be broken down into particles. Theoretics are fun and all but is nothing but wishful thinking and educated guesses.

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Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#12 - 2014-05-27 22:34:02 UTC
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
If were gonna get all technical about this isn't the hud supposed to be like the capsuleer looking at a screen?

So the ship computer could just be building that visual based on where you are in system and what the computer knows about the system.


If by screen you mean virtual interface as all information is downloaded into our heads and we are basically in our own virtual reality yes.
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#13 - 2014-05-27 22:41:04 UTC
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#14 - 2014-05-27 22:41:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
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You wouldn't be able to see anything since the only way to achieve anything close to the speed of light is to be broken down into particles. Theoretics are fun and all but is nothing but wishful thinking and educated guesses.


In theory you could stop for a second there to see how things are going. Lol

Because theorizing is like unveiling something, predicting.

If theory is correct then the state of the universe we can calculate, we don't have to go anywhere.
Doreen Kaundur
#15 - 2014-05-27 22:44:05 UTC
RL physics dont apply in EVE.

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#16 - 2014-05-27 22:50:55 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
RL physics dont apply in EVE.


This is true, watching them try and explain Concord in the lore, was painful to say the least.

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Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
#17 - 2014-05-27 22:54:55 UTC
Ohhhh Feely Nice wrote:
If you are travelling at dozens/hundreds of times the speed of light, you should not be able to see the light from the stars and planets so clearly.

As you approach the speed of light things start looking like this http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/faster-speed-of-light-1.jpg

I think you are wrong. I operate my ship at velocities faster than light speed all the time and it never looks like your picture P

Ohhhh Feely Nice wrote:
As you pass the speed of light things get very weird. Some theorize you'd see the past unraveling before your eyes. Others claim it's impossible and therefore futile to determine what may happen.

There are also theories that allow for FTL travel between A und B by shifting the space around an object without accelerating that object to light speed or faster (i.e. Alcubierre drive). And other theories use natural or artificial wormholes as shortcuts to go from A to B much faster than light, without actually moving faster than light.

Ohhhh Feely Nice wrote:
What we can be quite sure of is it certainly wouldn't look the way it does in game.

Where did it say that the game is scientifically accurate?
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#18 - 2014-05-27 23:01:33 UTC
I would think things would be a bit morphed visually. Or light you move towards becoming brighter while behind start fading or flickering.

The thing is, warp speed is ~FTL from outside of the bubble perspective, if you can see the traveler go by. And if you are in the bubble looking out from the bubble, sure, things would look distorted to some degree if you could even see out of the bubble. Originally when they put the effect into EVE, it was more correct, less transparent, but they toned it down after complaints. I suppose it's for the best in that case, since it is just a game, and not a hard to do adjustment. But still, it does distort, you can still see the effect in place.

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-05-27 23:51:42 UTC
A friend of mine who is a physicist once told me that while travelling FTL you'd see gorgeous naked space fairies.

CCP please fix animation accordingly.

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Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-05-27 23:52:48 UTC
I heard this somewhere.

It's a game.

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