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Right - I'm saying there's something wrong with this.

• In my overview, the can before being hacked shows as a solid white diamond. This matches the icon in space.
• In my overview, after being hacked, it shows as a hollow white diamond. This matches the icon in space.
• In my overview, After being accessed, it shows as a hollow white diamond. This does NOT match the icon in space - which shows as a hollow grey diamond. Shouldn't this match?

In addition, there's no way to tell if a hacked container still has loot in it, or not, based on the icon either in my overview, or in space. It would make sense to be able to tell at a glance if it had contents or not, and not have to open it or cargo scan it. With wrecks, we can see this easily by the solid/hollow setting.

Maybe this is a limitation, since I guess it's sort of the same as a jetcan/cargo container.

I hope you are kidding. I have a Virus Coherence of 110 standard, that is less than 5% increase. you lose it in chunks of 10 in highsec, 20 in lowsec, can't remember how much in null. which means the implant allows you to hack 0 (zero) more nodes, on average. only when you pick up a repair-augment and it happens to repair an odd amount that will cross the 20 barrier with this implant will you EVER feel the effect of this implant.

currently, the effect of the implant is so strong, that it is practically MENDATORY if you want to explore seriously.

EDIT: while i don't think the implant should remain as strong as it is now, nerfing it into uselessness is not the right way to balance it.
finding a good substitute is actually quite difficult, as i am thinking about it some more now. at first i thought -1sec scantime would be good, but wormhole community will probably find this bonus imbalanced. then i thought about -10% scanprobe flight time, but that as well would not be balanced for the same reason.
then i thought about giving + x % scanstrength, but that overlaps with virtue set. next i am thinking about some +warpspeed, but that might interfere with ascendency and interceptors.
hmmm. i think + 4km analyzer (10 total) optimal range would be kind of nice, tbh.

that has literally NEVER happened to me before, and i do exploration pretty much daily since half a year.

I would've been more in favor of 80% given the average ratio of loot obtained versus total loot in the can, but its nice to see you making a step in the right direction and taking our feedback into account nonetheless :)

Maybe it would be better this way:

Prospector hacking HC-905 - slot 9, +5 virus coherence for data, +3km hacking range

Prospector archeology AC-905 - slot 10, +5 virus coherence for relics, +3km hacking range

Have you thought about viewing this on the window of Low/Null/High?

High-Sec Relic Sites for instance are worth much less than Data as opposed to Low/Null where they run higher. Would hate to see Relic Sites in High-Sec become even more worthless due to a blanket pass.

Will check it out. Thanks.

So what does it mean when you say there is enough wrong with the balance? Relic sites being too valuable or data sites being to undervalued?

It would make sense that the more difficult the container, the better the drop. Perhaps you could code the site so that the items of value are determined when the site spawns and then are distributed across the containers with the more valued items in the harder to hack containers? It would give incentive to open all containers (why waste time hacking a container with 1 carbon?).

I was able to find and run a relic and data site in -0.4 sec space. the values are improved from last night, but I have not run enough to really get an idea of the average. Still, much nicer to not have to deal with the spew.

A short version reply is I feel 70% is low and it should be at least 80%. I normally got every item of value from a high sec site when I would run them so even 80% would be a relative nerf though it makes the site faster so 80% should get closer to evening out.

A simple solution is to pull all that 'junk' stuff and replace it with drops similar to rogue drone sites mineral containers. Minerals will always have value. You could even include 'credit sticks' using the items that ESS drop which would then add value to hacking without causing a massive oversupply in 'exploration materials' or stepping on the toes of anything else in a significant way. The Credit sticks is probably the best idea to significantly increase the value of exploration without over supplying the market with items.

As has been said, if lvl 4's done normally on a standard agent turn 40-50 Mil/hr when well done, (SOE blitzed I consider an exception since if everyone did it, prices would go through the floor super fast) then Exploration in high sec should turn 50-60 Mil when done well (Well being max skills). This may call for high sec sites to have certain easy cans and certain much harder cans that require good skills, so the newbie can siphon off the edges of a site so to speak but the motherloads in the middle require near maxed skills and some luck & knowledge. But certainly should be looked into properly.

We need to realize that the cut in loot tables is, or at least should be, more aimed at keeping the market from crashing due to the probably massive influx of new/old explorers and the increased speed in which sites can be run than it is to adjust for all the loot dropping at once. With that in mind, I think 70% is a good starting point. It may need to drop even lower as it sounds like everyone and their will be exploring now.



Yes!



You made clear by having a hard time remembering the strength of null nodes that you don't hack in null/WH. Barely having enough coherence or barely not having enough happens more frequently there. I've been paying attention to my hacks since the implant change was announced, and it would definitely have made a difference a few times. One nice thing is that it's most likely to be useful on the most valuable containers.