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The game is awesome and all, but ...

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Crixus Niminen
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-05-25 21:46:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Crixus Niminen
... finding a corp that suits me is harder then the game itself.

Im a fairly new player and I'm jumping from corp to corp, ruining my employment history trying to find a place where I could have some fun.

Problems:
1."Yeah we are super active" - 2 player online all day
2."We are super social" - teamspeak is dead
3."Yeah we are EU tz" - they wait for the us comrades to join and then the ops takes place
4."Yeah we do pvp fleets everyday" - nothing is happening


This is my first MMO so maybe I dont know how "guilds" actually look like, but if your corp has 4 active members please dont tell me 10-15.

Free teamspeak for corps, 84.200.78.40:9998 pass: blr . Msg me for more info or look for [Admin] zaibitsu in the TS.
Dominus Tempus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-05-25 21:50:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Dominus Tempus
Cool story. Needs more fedo.

If you want active, join FW, RvB, EveUni, or other blob alliances.
Jack Morrison
Team Liquid crp.
#3 - 2014-05-25 21:53:51 UTC
Dominus Tempus wrote:
Cool story. Needs more fedo.

If you want active, join FW, RvB, EveUni, or other blob alliances.


Like Brave Newbies ? Roll

Looking for a group to pew with ? Have a chat with me.
Prince Sanguine
#4 - 2014-05-25 21:54:13 UTC
Most corps offering those things don't tend to take in new players aka spais. I wouldn't.

Everytime you read this you are required to send 100 million isk directly to me.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2014-05-25 21:56:37 UTC
Crixus Niminen wrote:

This is my first MMO.

Whelp, you pretty much ruind the genre for yourself, literally the only interesting one available.

Don't worry, keep at it, you will find a group in your timezone interesting enough, just takes time.
Failing that, bring friends into eve, stat your own.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#6 - 2014-05-25 21:56:58 UTC
Prince Sanguine wrote:
Most corps offering those things don't tend to take in new players aka spais. I wouldn't.


But when the spai is bad enough to post about it in GD? Where's the harm?

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Marsha Mallow
#7 - 2014-05-25 21:59:24 UTC
Before anyone comes in and smacks you - you aren't wrong.

Most corps are rubbish. On one hand tbf to them it shouldn't have to be a second job and the 'leadership roles' attract people who fail IRL to communicate. On the other they just want grunts for the sake of it. Choose carefully, we can't tell you what to pick.

Talk to people you like and recruit/mentor yourself - it's more about banter than anyone realises. Anyone can create a private chat channel. If your corp obstruct your recruitment (and you're good at it) roll your own corp.

Join every channel you can, keep in touch with people who amuse you in local/forums (and kill you).

That TZ thing you can plug yourself, my peronal fav ppl ingame are way off tz for me, but makes no difference.

gl :)

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Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Marsha Mallow
#8 - 2014-05-25 22:01:13 UTC
Dominus Tempus wrote:
Cool story. Needs more fedo.

If you want active, join FW, RvB, EveUni, or other blob alliances.

Don't ***** about shitposting then reply like this.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Zack Korth
Livid CO.
#9 - 2014-05-25 22:02:20 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Crixus Niminen wrote:

This is my first MMO.

Whelp, you pretty much ruind the genre for yourself, literally the only interesting one available.


lol that's actually true
Pix Severus
Empty You
#10 - 2014-05-25 22:02:58 UTC
Crixus Niminen wrote:
4."Yeah we do pvp fleets everyday" - nothing is happening


Always check the corp's killboard for recent activity.

Crixus Niminen wrote:
This is my first MMO so maybe I dont know how "guilds" actually look like, but if your corp has 4 active members please dont tell me 10-15.


Look for corps that advertise having 50-60 active members, and you might get closer to the tight-knit group of 10-15 you're looking for.

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Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-05-25 22:06:38 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Prince Sanguine wrote:
Most corps offering those things don't tend to take in new players aka spais. I wouldn't.


But when the spai is bad enough to post about it in GD? Where's the harm?


Triple bluff.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#12 - 2014-05-25 22:07:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Welcome to EVE.

You have indeed stumbled over the largest problems new players face in this game. Unfortunately, there is little advice to be had in this area other than “keep at it”. There are some proper institutions that will pick up new players and let them run wild, but a huge amount of corps are what you have just described: a fancy outward image with nothing behind it (except maybe some corp taxes that you won't get back).

Don't worry about your corp history. Any proper corp will understand that it takes a couple of tries to get it right. In fact, most proper corps will probably be something of the opposite of what you've come across: nothing fancy to inflate their purported exploits, but rather just some basic contact info. Look for those instead. One thing to remember here is that some of them will require some kind of pseudo-interview to get in — remember that the interview goes both ways. You need to figure out if they're a good fit for you just as much as they need to figure out if you're a good fit for them.

A slightly more counter-intuitive way to find a corp is to remember that failure is both an option and not optional: there are plenty of stories about players who have gone into lowsec to get blown up over and over, and who have then ended up being recruited into the corp that shot at them. After all, they've demonstrated the kind of determination and spunk that the corp likes to see. It's hardly a guarantee, but it is a way to start communicating with other players and make that first problematic connection. Big smile
Riyria Twinpeaks
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-05-25 22:11:38 UTC
I can't give you a lot of hints, I'm afraid, as I got pretty lucky.
I was reading the recruitment forum and found a thread which expressed an attitude I really liked, and, lucky me, they also take in newbies.
I got in touch with them, first via eve mail then in their public chat channel, and shortly after I joined and I like it :)

So, while I can't give you good advice like others here, maybe you can take this as an encouragement :)
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#14 - 2014-05-25 22:31:05 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Prince Sanguine wrote:
Most corps offering those things don't tend to take in new players aka spais. I wouldn't.


But when the spai is bad enough to post about it in GD? Where's the harm?


Triple bluff.

Quad bluff!
Static portraits make for excellent poker faces .

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Winchester Steele
#15 - 2014-05-25 22:32:58 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Dominus Tempus wrote:
Cool story. Needs more fedo.

If you want active, join FW, RvB, EveUni, or other blob alliances.

Don't ***** about shitposting then reply like this.



Ya know.

...

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#16 - 2014-05-25 23:00:43 UTC
Upon actually reading all of tipas post,
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#17 - 2014-05-26 02:10:16 UTC
A lot of advice already given but I would like to point you towards this guide that will talk you trough everything from where to look, background check and what to avoid.

Keep looking and good luck Smile

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ISD Supogo
ISD BH
ISD Alliance
#18 - 2014-05-26 02:15:45 UTC
Shop around the corp recruitment board here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=265 Usually you'll find some good starting info there, then talk with their recruiters in-game or on TS or however they do it. As others have mentioned it takes a few times. I went through 2 corps before finding a 3rd one that I enjoy, and on top of that even the corp switched alliances due to being upset about how that was being handled. Corps are a fluid thing, and it can take time to find that fit. Once you do though, it's golden.

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-05-26 02:50:36 UTC
OP, I agree. Going by word of mouth, or browsing through a forum full of ads (and subsequent hate posts, or complete utter lack of followup posts by other people) is not a good way to find people you can have fun with.

I'd go tell you to join Dom's corp, but that would be a bit self serving.

Maybe some tips I can offer you:
  • Look on reddit (/r/Eve, /r/Evenewbies, /r/Evejobs), though reddit is infested mostly by Brave and TEST (it's a friendly infestation)

  • Look in the corp forum as ISD Supogoisawesome linked

  • Join the "community" channels to get more of a sense of corporations (E-UNI, the various shield and armor incursion channels like "The Valhalla Project" or "The Ditanian Fleet", some of the channels under the "Trade" category)

  • Some of the NPC corps are chattier than others. Often there are alts who will chat about corps their main is on and why (without intending to recruit)

  • Look at the alliances of the well known corps (ie: Look at Brave Collective instead of Brave Newbies).. Alliances contain some smaller lesser known, tight-knit corps with wonderful cultures

  • Ignore corps which advertise for both PVE and PVP. Largely these are corps that haven't figured out their niche in EVE

  • Ignore PVE corps in Hisec. I mean why bother doing buyback in a place where you can easily haul your own ore and sell it?

  • Don't visit the Recruitment chat channel. It is a spam-fest and conveys no useful information

  • If you want to join a Mercenary corp, look for their "peacocking" threads in Crime & Punishment. Noir., SYJ and others have some lively discussions..

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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#20 - 2014-05-26 02:54:41 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Before anyone comes in and smacks you - you aren't wrong.

Most corps are rubbish. On one hand tbf to them it shouldn't have to be a second job and the 'leadership roles' attract people who fail IRL to communicate. On the other they just want grunts for the sake of it. Choose carefully, we can't tell you what to pick.

Talk to people you like and recruit/mentor yourself - it's more about banter than anyone realises. Anyone can create a private chat channel. If your corp obstruct your recruitment (and you're good at it) roll your own corp.

Join every channel you can, keep in touch with people who amuse you in local/forums (and kill you).

That TZ thing you can plug yourself, my peronal fav ppl ingame are way off tz for me, but makes no difference.

gl :)



This pretty much. The flip side is that most corps that are worth a damn are going to be super cautious of you, because spies and corp thieves. Your best bet is to network with friends in game, hang out with people and get a feel for what the corp is like. I hate to say it, but as the new guy expect to do a lot of grunt work at first regardless. The first corp I joined made you mine your own first battleship before they let you PvP so you understood the real value of that ship. (Took me two weeks with t1 mining lasers and some harvies)

(STK Scientific blew up that one)

But basically yeah, talk to people, get a feel for the corp.
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