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Alexei Stryker
Council of Stellar Erections
#61 - 2014-05-25 14:32:24 UTC
Xasnevian wrote:
Me and my dad were going to get a laptop for my grandma so that she could browse the web and send emails. We wanted a windows 7 laptop, but all the store had were windows 8 laptops (because microsoft is great company and they want to force their awesome operating system on you). We told the sales person that we did not want windows 8, because we had no experience with it and we heard very bad stories about it. The sales person offered us a 'course' in windows 8, because windows 8 is supposedly very awesome. We told the sales person that if even we did not know how to use windows 8, my grandma at the age of 80 would certainly not be able to use it before she died. We left the store without a laptop and bought a second hand one with windows 7.

tldr: Don't use windows 8


You know that every WIn 8 Laptop is downgradable to WIn 7 right?
Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#62 - 2014-05-25 14:35:27 UTC
Alexei Stryker wrote:
You know that every WIn 8 Laptop is downgradable to WIn 7 right?

For a fee or free? I'd like to know because I'm dreading my next computer purchase Straight

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Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
#63 - 2014-05-25 14:52:14 UTC
Deacon Abox wrote:
Alexei Stryker wrote:
You know that every WIn 8 Laptop is downgradable to WIn 7 right?

For a fee or free? I'd like to know because I'm dreading my next computer purchase Straight


Usually you have to pay. Depends where of course.
Commander Spurty
#64 - 2014-05-25 16:58:12 UTC
If it hasn't already been said then "yes upgrade to 8.1" but do make sure you have done a disk check first.

Now if you are still using XP and saying "it works fine" you have a nightmare waiting to happen.

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Steve Ronuken
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#65 - 2014-05-25 17:08:35 UTC
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:

Well, I work in the it community and deal with lots of different companies, not one person I've spoken to likes it or wants it, demand for win7 has gone up. I'm the only one who doesn't mind windows 8 in work, most of my colleagues want it to die in a fire.
edit, eve works well for me on 8.1



Hi! Bunch of people here who have absolutely no problem with Windows 8. So that anecdote is out the window, right?



Anyway:

Using windows 8.1 here. Occasional graphics problems (driver halts), but I'm pretty sure that's down to the overclocked (from factory) graphics card, not liking Firefox.

There's supposed to be an update coming out some time in the near future which returns the start menu (with a few live tile spaces on it. actually looks neat) which should take care of most people's problems with 8. From a behind the scenes perspective, it's the better and more secure OS.

(remember to update to 8.1 update 1. As if you don't, you won't get any more updates)

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Mandrel Tazinas
Doomheim
#66 - 2014-05-25 20:46:30 UTC
On the most part, Windows 8.1 runs well. I do believe in giving the consumer options and feel MS should have made Metro UI optional, especially for those of us who do not have or use a touch screen. Like most, I was extremely skeptical about Win8; but the skepticism waned and I don't have any desire going back to any previous version of Windows. Although, if MS does what I've heard they might do (sub-based OS), I'll drop all support for MS and build a Linux box or Hackintosh.

Since coming back to EvE, I have had one issue which requires a complete reboot to fix. I highly doubt this has anything to do with Eve, but if I try to listen to Pandora and play Eve at the same time, I'll lose sound in Eve. Afterwards, I cannot get any of the open windows to respond and the mouse cursor does nothing but take focus away from the desktop. I assume it is stuck in Eve even though I can see it on the desktop. Like I said, this is more than likely an issue of Windows default sound driver I am having to use because ASUS won't provide one for my GENE III MOBO.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#67 - 2014-05-25 22:12:56 UTC
No issues running EVE on both Windows 8 and 8.1. And 7.

Choose your favourite and you'll be fine.

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Winchester Steele
#68 - 2014-05-25 22:28:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Winchester Steele
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:

Well, I work in the it community and deal with lots of different companies, not one person I've spoken to likes it or wants it, demand for win7 has gone up. I'm the only one who doesn't mind windows 8 in work, most of my colleagues want it to die in a fire.
edit, eve works well for me on 8.1



Hi! Bunch of people here who have absolutely no problem with Windows 8. So that anecdote is out the window, right?



Anyway:

Using windows 8.1 here. Occasional graphics problems (driver halts), but I'm pretty sure that's down to the overclocked (from factory) graphics card, not liking Firefox.

There's supposed to be an update coming out some time in the near future which returns the start menu (with a few live tile spaces on it. actually looks neat) which should take care of most people's problems with 8. From a behind the scenes perspective, it's the better and more secure OS.

(remember to update to 8.1 update 1. As if you don't, you won't get any more updates)



So your day job is with Microsoft then I take it?


Edit: you were number 3 on all my ballots btw. Grats on the appointment. Cool

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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#69 - 2014-05-25 23:52:37 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:

Well, I work in the it community and deal with lots of different companies, not one person I've spoken to likes it or wants it, demand for win7 has gone up. I'm the only one who doesn't mind windows 8 in work, most of my colleagues want it to die in a fire.
edit, eve works well for me on 8.1



Hi! Bunch of people here who have absolutely no problem with Windows 8. So that anecdote is out the window, right?



Anyway:

Using windows 8.1 here. Occasional graphics problems (driver halts), but I'm pretty sure that's down to the overclocked (from factory) graphics card, not liking Firefox.

There's supposed to be an update coming out some time in the near future which returns the start menu (with a few live tile spaces on it. actually looks neat) which should take care of most people's problems with 8. From a behind the scenes perspective, it's the better and more secure OS.

(remember to update to 8.1 update 1. As if you don't, you won't get any more updates)


Yeay, I voted for you.

I don't mind windows 8, I'd already done the 8.1 update which adds a lot more ease of use to the os if you are used to earlier versions of Windows.

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45thtiger 0109
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#70 - 2014-05-26 02:40:24 UTC
Ambassador Spock wrote:
Has anyone had any good/bad experiences with Eve on Windows 8.1? My laptop has Windows 8, and has been asking me to upgrade to 8.1 for ages now. The only real reason I haven't is in case it messes with Eve. Any advice/experiences would be appreciated.


I have windows 7 x64 which is running EvE quite happily.

As for windows 8 I don't like it at all to complex to find things.

I use windows 8 at work but not on my home PC.

If or when Windows 9 comes out and it has the same interface as windows 7 then I will upgrade it to Windows 9.

As we all know Microsoft comes out with one good operating system and one bad operating system.

I remembered when it was Dos, Windows 3.0, Windows 3.1 for workgroups, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Millenium,Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows 8.2 soon to be released, Windows 9 whenever that is going to be released.

There you all go a little history on the Windows operating Systems over the years.

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2014-05-26 03:47:29 UTC
I find it surprising that taking some simple steps to restore the Start Menu as you liked it in Win 7 is so hard for you guys.

Windows 8 has a lot of changes under the hood that makes it faster and more stable (one reason why this was done was to provide a version of Windows that would be as responsive as a tablet OS). Win 7 is great and all, but Win 8 x64 can do everything the previous operating system can.. all of the legacy support is built in.

What Windows 8 also did in the industry is drive computer OEMs to provide better trackpads and (usable) touchscreens on laptops. The trackpad on my Thinkpad can do multi-finger gestures like my MacBook (it's almost as decent). It actually makes me not miss my MacBook at all..

I also like the new Start screen. It's like the old Start Menu, but everything is much bigger.. and like in Mac OS you can just start typing a couple of letters and it will find the program you need. You can also try Windows Key + X to bring up a helpful menu of things that were previously on the right-hand side of the Start Menu.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#72 - 2014-05-26 04:12:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Hasikan Miallok
lol ... well lots of street cred to all the cool types that have managed to turn Win8 into a Solar Heated Swimming pool ... oops sorry ... into a clone of Win7 by their cleverness downloading addons :D

Regardless, the OS is a marketing disaster for MS and whilst you can actually force it to work as a windowing OS rather than a tablet one if you try hard enough you simply should not have to.

Win8 as " the OS that best provides computer nerds with a chance to show off by sneering at people that do not like it" is not a particularly viable marketing model :D

That said ... it actually runs EVE fine most of the time.
ISD Supogo
ISD BH
ISD Alliance
#73 - 2014-05-26 04:19:15 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Whilst Win8 is pathetic and annoying and frustrating ... the only issue I have had with EVE is a regular "Windows is out of memory message" even though I have 8Gb of ram.


You're running an x64 operating system right?


^This. 32-bit systems are limited to 4GB of TOTAL addressable memory, not just RAM: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/clearing-up-the-3264-bit-memory-limit-confusion/3124

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#74 - 2014-05-26 07:17:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Kristalll wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Ugh Win 8 is eyeball shredding madness

Dont let Microshaft tell you what to do.

Stick with anything other than Win8.

Win8 = LoseIt


You're an idiot.

Windows 8 is as good, if not better than windows 7 in terms of its UI.


Good rational debate there

Im sorry that you are so wrong

But you being wrong doesnt make me an idiot

I hope you enjoy your computer having a mobile phone interface

BTW Windows 7 is garbage too. Win 8's interface looks and functions terribly.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2014-05-26 09:04:42 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
I find it surprising that taking some simple steps to restore the Start Menu as you liked it in Win 7 is so hard for you guys.

Windows 8 has a lot of changes under the hood that makes it faster and more stable (one reason why this was done was to provide a version of Windows that would be as responsive as a tablet OS). Win 7 is great and all, but Win 8 x64 can do everything the previous operating system can.. all of the legacy support is built in.

What Windows 8 also did in the industry is drive computer OEMs to provide better trackpads and (usable) touchscreens on laptops. The trackpad on my Thinkpad can do multi-finger gestures like my MacBook (it's almost as decent). It actually makes me not miss my MacBook at all..

I also like the new Start screen. It's like the old Start Menu, but everything is much bigger.. and like in Mac OS you can just start typing a couple of letters and it will find the program you need. You can also try Windows Key + X to bring up a helpful menu of things that were previously on the right-hand side of the Start Menu.


Why the need to take any steps when you can just have Win7?

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Steve Ronuken
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#76 - 2014-05-26 11:22:47 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Why the need to take any steps when you can just have Win7?


So you have longer support times?

(depends how often you replace your PC, of course.)

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