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Stupid question about bounty
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Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#1 - 2014-05-25 10:02:58 UTC
Hey guys ,

So there's something im not clear about..


Say i have a 300 mil bounty on my head ( which isnt a lie) and i want to get rid of it but also take it at the same time for me.

So if i use my alt to blast me up,do i need to be in a hull+ fits worth 300 mil ? Or do i have to have stuff in my cargo of that value ?

Also , if i grab a ship to be sploded in with its total value of my bounty or more, when i get sploded does all the bounty give out or just a percentage ??

Thank you

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !
Rannasha Kore
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-05-25 10:13:02 UTC
20% of the value of the killmail is paid out as a bounty. Killmails include cargo hold contents. So to get rid of a 300 mil bounty, you need to lose 1.5 bil worth of stuff (though if you use an alt/friend to do so, you can recover half of the modules / cargo through loot).
Zol Interbottom
Blimp Requisition Services
#3 - 2014-05-25 11:07:19 UTC
Steal something and blow that up, wont stop you getting more bounty though.

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Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#4 - 2014-05-25 12:43:12 UTC
Rannasha Kore wrote:
20% of the value of the killmail is paid out as a bounty. Killmails include cargo hold contents. So to get rid of a 300 mil bounty, you need to lose 1.5 bil worth of stuff (though if you use an alt/friend to do so, you can recover half of the modules / cargo through loot).



damn .. well that doesn't seem fair ?

but i guess this is to stop people from abusing this to make profit ..

still kindah ruins the whole bounty hunting thing if ur only payed 20% of the km value .

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !
Captain Finklestein
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-05-25 13:08:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Finklestein
Yes the 20% is to keep it balanced, not really unfair though, as many pilots have always had a price of 20%-25% per head for their bounties anyways. It's a good number that even in the best circumstances with insurance can't really be exploited.

Semi unrelated but I'm *pretty sure* they pay out bounties even if you suicide gank someone, which is completely insane but not complaining Lol

It's just more financially viable for me.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-05-25 13:16:32 UTC
Sadly, there is no such thing as a 'bounty hunting thing'.

People pop ships because [insert any other reason except bounty here] and collect any bounty as a free bonus, laughing at the guy(s) that wasted their money on it.


Imo, there really is no good way to make the bounty system work because:

1) death in EVE is meaningless, except ISK loss

2) the ISK loss part makes it impossible to have a meaningful bounty system that wouldn't be trivial to exploit

Cry

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Captain Finklestein
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-05-26 03:23:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Finklestein
I've been thinking a bit about the fact that you can collect bounties from suicide ganks.

Surely if any mission runner had a large price on his head, pirates could take advantage of this could they not?

For instance if a ganker who hates bot aspirant mission runners decided to put 200mil bounty on the head of every mission runner in a certain system (let's say 20 regulars at a cost of 4bil to the ISK-rich vigilant). Gankers could then have good reasons to gank the mission runners in that area.

A different scenario: You're a miner and this bastard keeps coming and taking your ores. You put a huge bounty on him and his 3 alt's heads and post up his location to C&P as well as evidence that he mines AFK in a Mackinaw all day.
~40mil in rewards for the gankers each time one of the Macks are popped.

It's just more financially viable for me.
Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-05-26 04:23:04 UTC
Yes, putting bounties on Miners (and maybe some other types of industrials) that would cover the cost of the ships used to gank them is probably the only way you can actually use the system as it stands to encourage violence against your target.

On the other hand you could just use that money to gank them yourself!
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#9 - 2014-05-26 04:53:48 UTC
Captain Finklestein wrote:
I've been thinking a bit about the fact that you can collect bounties from suicide ganks.

Surely if any mission runner had a large price on his head, pirates could take advantage of this could they not?

For instance if a ganker who hates bot aspirant mission runners decided to put 200mil bounty on the head of every mission runner in a certain system (let's say 20 regulars at a cost of 4bil to the ISK-rich vigilant). Gankers could then have good reasons to gank the mission runners in that area.

A different scenario: You're a miner and this bastard keeps coming and taking your ores. You put a huge bounty on him and his 3 alt's heads and post up his location to C&P as well as evidence that he mines AFK in a Mackinaw all day.
~40mil in rewards for the gankers each time one of the Macks are popped.



Not worth the time. The dedicated suicide gankers who do that will, well, do it regardless. Bounties are not an incentive to suicide gank someone.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-05-26 18:31:41 UTC
I can tell you that I never look at miners to see who has a bounty and who doesn't I look more for who has a tank I can break given the firepower I have available at this moment. Even if two miners had the same tank the choice between them would probably come down to which is closer. Even if one had a bounty and the other didn't, I would most likely not even notice. Any time I get a mail saying I collected a bounty I just laugh to myself, but I do not pursue bounties. Even when looking at mission runners to gank, I look at the value of their fittings, not their bounty.

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Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-05-27 06:10:17 UTC
There are no stupid questions, only stupid game mechanics. Bounties on demigods are a stupid game mechanics.

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#12 - 2014-07-25 17:31:26 UTC
LOL CUTE.