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[Kronos] The New Eden Store

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Eli Hakomairos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#41 - 2014-05-23 12:38:49 UTC
Any chance of you guys adding in a female version of the long coat from this screen?
http://imgur.com/eSguZUm
Abulurd Boniface
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2014-05-23 12:40:37 UTC
Eli Hakomairos wrote:
Any chance of you guys adding in a female version of the long coat from this screen?
http://imgur.com/eSguZUm


What color? How about some accessories, shoes, a handbag? [I'm not being sarcastic]
Gosti Kahanid
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2014-05-23 13:01:21 UTC
Buying more than one thing takes way to long. Make a cart were I put all my articles in and let me pay all at once when I check out.
Abulurd Boniface
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2014-05-23 15:05:03 UTC
Gosti Kahanid wrote:
Buying more than one thing takes way to long. Make a cart were I put all my articles in and let me pay all at once when I check out.


That's the shopping cart idea. That's actually patented, somebody is going to sue CCP over use of that technology. No more free updates for us. We can't have that.

Just have a tick box next to every product, with a box that allows you to select a quantity, tally the total, go to the checkout and punch the 'yes' button.
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#45 - 2014-05-23 16:02:55 UTC
Oh and for the love of the sky gods. How about some flat shoes/boots? I would also pay to have the gallente clothes available to me.

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Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#46 - 2014-05-23 17:01:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Dersen Lowery
Commissar Kate wrote:
Oh and for the love of the sky gods. How about some flat shoes/boots? I would also pay to have the gallente clothes available to me.


+1, but I remember digging up the reason for no flats: because of :reasons: related to CARBON's collision detection algorithm, all avatars are exactly the same height, about 5'8". Men are 5'7" with ~1" heels; Women are about 5'5" with ~3" heels. Dropping the heel breaks the collision algorithm, which apparently goes exponential when confronted with avatars of different heights.

So the answer is likely to be not any time soon, unless you're OK with your avatar magically gaining or losing a couple of inches when she changes her shoes. Even if it's an easy fix (which I doubt--it's probably that way because they're trying to model soft collisions with fabric and, er, fatty tissue, not just character model intersections) it will either roll out when CCP is about ready to reboot Ambulation, or when they've given up on multi-avatar environments entirely, making collision a moot point.

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Solecist Project
#47 - 2014-05-23 17:49:57 UTC
Hi! :D

So I used it extensively and I must tell you that the delays ...
... DELAYS ... every time I bought something ... are RIDICULOUSLY ANNOYING ! :O


You either want me to buy stuff and thus offer a fast and slick experience,
or you want me to get lost in the time I need to wait for a stupid window to vanish again!


All else, I like it.


But we, as in, several others who also think alike,
would really like the GLOVES on some coats to be seperately buyable!

Because sexy! :D



Thank you!

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#48 - 2014-05-23 17:51:50 UTC
Still not seeing all the renderings.

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2014-05-23 18:13:22 UTC
Posted in the wrong thread. Moved it here.

My experiences on SiSi:

  • I noticed the NES store on Neocom. Was there some better consistency or unification planned for icons that are both in Station Services and Neocom? Why are some of the Neocom icons in Station Services anyway?

  • The high contrast NES icon sort of stands out from the rest of the Neocom (and Station Services) icons

  • I noticed the Esc > Redeem items button is gone. This makes it *very interesting* to get items from NES: Buy, quit, login, then redeem

  • I noticed the filters in NES didn't work like "male" or "female" etc.

  • The confirmation window for NES purchases is very clunky. The X button in the corner won't respond until the animation in the window finishes completely. May want to consider some visual feedback so it doesn't seem as laggy

  • Was this coat http://imgur.com/bAR8O5r untextured or will it eventually look like http://imgur.com/eSguZUm (3rd one from left)

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Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#50 - 2014-05-23 19:23:37 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
  • Was this coat http://imgur.com/bAR8O5r untextured or will it eventually look like http://imgur.com/eSguZUm (3rd one from left)

    • This is one texture for that coat style, the one in that picture is another. For some reason that latter one hasn't been put on the store. There are also some other varieties that haven't been put onto the store yet.

    I'm hoping they intend on including all the different varieties they have made, of all of these sets. There are some great color combos for the sanctity set especially that I'd love to get, but have so far not been included in the store.
    SurrenderMonkey
    State Protectorate
    Caldari State
    #51 - 2014-05-23 19:29:16 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
    Noriko Mai wrote:

    EDIT 2: Even WoW has a better shop Sad That is really embarrassing.


    WoW's gameplay style isn't something I enjoy, but Blizzard is renowned for their production values and polish, and, simply put, they typically do a better job of what they do than most game companies, most of the time. That they make games appealing to a mass market instead of a niche doesn't make it at all "embarrassing" that a company with a UI and web budget that probably exceeds CCP's in its entirety can pull off a better shop.

    Of course they can. You would have to be an idiot to expect otherwise.

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    Suzariel Kel-Paten
    Aliastra
    Gallente Federation
    #52 - 2014-05-23 21:56:06 UTC
    One of the models for women's pants shares a brand name with an adult diaper product here in the US. I guess that could've been an Easter egg or joke?

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    Abulurd Boniface
    Center for Advanced Studies
    Gallente Federation
    #53 - 2014-05-23 22:49:51 UTC
    Suzariel Kel-Paten wrote:
    One of the models for women's pants shares a brand name with an adult diaper product here in the US. I guess that could've been an Easter egg or joke?


    No. When people start using common words as brands language formation becomes needlessly ambiguous.

    "Windows", really?

    "Word", give me a break

    "Apple", enough already

    "Poise"... an adult diaper uses a word that has nothing to do with the product they just don't want you to feel bad for using them, where does it end?

    You can't scour the world for words that have been appropriated as brands because that means you never get to use names anymore, we've already used all the words that are easy to remember. They even have medication branded under one name in one country and another in a different part of the world. I don't even know how these people keep up with that.
    Ralph King-Griffin
    New Eden Tech Support
    #54 - 2014-05-23 23:40:12 UTC
    "store is unavailable" again.

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    Noriko Mai
    #55 - 2014-05-24 14:54:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Noriko Mai
    SurrenderMonkey wrote:
    Noriko Mai wrote:

    EDIT 2: Even WoW has a better shop Sad That is really embarrassing.


    WoW's gameplay style isn't something I enjoy, but Blizzard is renowned for their production values and polish, and, simply put, they typically do a better job of what they do than most game companies, most of the time. That they make games appealing to a mass market instead of a niche doesn't make it at all "embarrassing" that a company with a UI and web budget that probably exceeds CCP's in its entirety can pull off a better shop.

    Of course they can. You would have to be an idiot to expect otherwise.


    Your budget comparison is total bullshit! It's an ingame store and not brain surgery. You would have to be an idiot to expect otherwise.

    CCP just pulled out a bullshit bingo chart for monetizing vanity items in video games and worked criss-cross trough that thing.


    • Remove the ability to track your expenses
    • Remove the ability to see your balance (except in shop)
    • Remove the ability to compare AUR price with ISK price in market
    • Add a few items in a bazillion colours as seperate items to fake diversity
    • Disconnect the customer from the game
    • Use a totaly different interface
    • Remove ability / Make it troublesome to see if you already have that item in your hangar
    • Absolutely confusing interface (no tables, no obvious structure)
    • Hide important details from customer (see: Ship Skin BPCs)
    • Touch interface in a PC game. Because touch is cool and fancy.
    • Build in a few quirks so the customer buys accidentally or more than desired (see: New 'Amount' field next to 'Buy now')
    • Make the previews generic to increase sells. Looks nice on picture, but not on your character. Just buy the collection...
    • etc


    In my opinion that thing is a total disaster. You can already see how CCP has problems to reintegrate the most basic things like redeeming and buy confirmation.

    "Meh.." - Albert Einstein
    Eli Hakomairos
    Deep Core Mining Inc.
    Caldari State
    #56 - 2014-05-24 15:51:31 UTC
    Abulurd Boniface wrote:
    Eli Hakomairos wrote:
    Any chance of you guys adding in a female version of the long coat from this screen?
    http://imgur.com/eSguZUm


    What color? How about some accessories, shoes, a handbag? [I'm not being sarcastic]

    It's amarr, so keep it the amarr colors.
    default tan and gold
    sarum family crimson and gold
    Khanid black and silver
    ect ect...
    Circumstantial Evidence
    #57 - 2014-05-24 22:06:24 UTC
    Noriko Mai wrote:
    • Disconnect the customer from the game
    If you want to go the route of full screen UI, available while flying in space, it should be on a background layer like planetary interaction. The Overview and channel overlays should be on top so players can keep situational awareness while in space.
    Setting aside UI issues that need further iteration, it would be less programming effort to keep the Store UI as it is now, only available in-station, since you can only redeem items to a station or outpost.
    Ralph King-Griffin
    New Eden Tech Support
    #58 - 2014-05-25 11:41:43 UTC
    Circumstantial Evidence wrote:
    Noriko Mai wrote:
    • Disconnect the customer from the game
    If you want to go the route of full screen UI, available while flying in space, it should be on a background layer like planetary interaction. The Overview and channel overlays should be on top so players can keep situational awareness while in space.
    Setting aside UI issues that need further iteration, it would be less programming effort to keep the Store UI as it is now, only available in-station, since you can only redeem items to a station or outpost.

    aside from the distinct absence of my isk wallet this is my biggest issue with a working store, however im still getting the "store is unavailable" message

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    CCP Cognac
    C C P
    C C P Alliance
    #59 - 2014-05-25 14:11:57 UTC
    Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
    Circumstantial Evidence wrote:
    Noriko Mai wrote:
    • Disconnect the customer from the game
    If you want to go the route of full screen UI, available while flying in space, it should be on a background layer like planetary interaction. The Overview and channel overlays should be on top so players can keep situational awareness while in space.
    Setting aside UI issues that need further iteration, it would be less programming effort to keep the Store UI as it is now, only available in-station, since you can only redeem items to a station or outpost.

    aside from the distinct absence of my isk wallet this is my biggest issue with a working store, however im still getting the "store is unavailable" message


    Are you bypassing the launcher when starting your client?

    The store needs SSO authentication to work and it gets that from the launcher.
    MailDeadDrop
    Archon Industries
    #60 - 2014-05-25 23:42:04 UTC
    CCP Cognac wrote:
    Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
    Circumstantial Evidence wrote:
    Noriko Mai wrote:
    • Disconnect the customer from the game
    If you want to go the route of full screen UI, available while flying in space, it should be on a background layer like planetary interaction. The Overview and channel overlays should be on top so players can keep situational awareness while in space.
    Setting aside UI issues that need further iteration, it would be less programming effort to keep the Store UI as it is now, only available in-station, since you can only redeem items to a station or outpost.

    aside from the distinct absence of my isk wallet this is my biggest issue with a working store, however im still getting the "store is unavailable" message


    Are you bypassing the launcher when starting your client?

    The store needs SSO authentication to work and it gets that from the launcher.



    Repro steps:

    1. Start the Sisi launcher shortcut.
    2. Wait for client to update.
    3. Enter account name and password.
    4. Click "LOG IN" button.
    5. Click "PLAY" button.
    6. Wait very long time (compared to TQ) for character selection screen. "Long" = 30s
    7. Click "New Eden Store" graphic
    8. Watch spinny for about 3s
    9. Receive "Store is currently unavailable"
    10. Close client
    11. Start the Sisi launcher shortcut.
    12. Enter account name and password.
    13. Click "LOG IN" button.
    14. Click "PLAY" button.
    15. Wait short time for character selection screen. "Short" < 5s
    16. Click "New Eden Store" graphic
    17. Watch spinny for about 3s
    18. Receive "Store is currently unavailable"


    CCP Cognac your store code is borked. I cannot provide easier, more straightforward repro steps than the above.

    MDD