Warfare & Tactics

Ppl do not realize how right pockets sadly is.

The battle of B-R5RB crap was paid by fw isk to at least two thirds, if not 90%. No profession in eve pays as good as fw farming - including scamming and wh - if you compare risk to isk balance.

The 75 titans lost crap - that is as important as 75 rifters lost, because you can easly get a titan per person in 30 days of farming at L3 or 4 in fw. It will take you 3-4 hours a day (you get 40 to 60 bil that way, more if you press and have some organization). You can buy lots of toons too . . . you can even get the toon with fw isk.

So a titan in 30 days is easier to get that training a newbee toon - what will take at least a year to get some combat efficieness.

I do personally know pirates that did that and bought themselves titans with fw isk.

What fw guys do not realize is that about of estimated 80% of their respective milita in amarr, minmatar and caldari are only russ and null farmers. In cal mil the percentage is even higher.

Those farmers - being afk or bot famring, farm for hour every **** day . . . even at T1.

I personally have no interest in hunting them, because is is absolutly useless. Boring, non-combat activities, my game time is not worth it - I go play world of tanks instead, 100% pvp.

The problem is CCP - they said that BCs where used too much - and made them absoulte useless. Same what happend to BSs before.

They said fw is dead and with inferno they made it free isk for all.

Balance is what matters.

I know it is difficult to balance things out.

But a large unrestricted plex will be of absoluttly no worth.

A restriceted BC plex would bring BCs on field in an instance.

As I lived in eha in cal mil we attacked oics next door and fought 3 to 4 times in a row in BCs - and our frig gangs even got bridged on by pirates.

So the game mechanic problems are quite clear.

Bridging should only be possible in null space - because all null bear allies would crush in 3 weeks, if those gyus had to move their fleets though gates and bubbles. Leave the null bears to their boring life.

Low sec should be about gate and plex combat.

So good logic dictates that there should be plexes for every ship size, from noob frig to BS.

Why train you toon when you can not fly the ships?

It took all of about 5 minutes for people to discover doomsdays worked in lowsec (after that patch that changed doomsdays from being AOE). It was eventually fixed. Also, it could be fired at any ship.

i saw you got hotdropped this morning :( sorry about your omen m8

Yes, militia corps do not have the capacity to endlessly drop prots/absolutions and guards on t1 cruiser fleets under the guise of not being an F1 monkey in risk free PvP lol.

Rank and file DnD were F1 monkeys, rank and file Snuff Box are also F1 monkeys. Without them you wouldnt be able to have these 'much more' options.

Doesnt make them good pilots. Doesnt make the content good in and of itself.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

As for a combined force of militia and being a force to be reckoned with? Thats not even desirable. It ends up like snuff box and DnD where the bulk of people undock only for timers to be told when you press F1. Ill take my instant action at any time over that. The main reason you can go out and find action in your area is because of the conflict drivers of FW. So we both agree FW is not broken, just not on what is desirable in terms of potential end game.

Fly safe in the rank and file!

We can go round and round about this with our opinions on what did or didn't happen for whatever reasons. I still get my instant solo PVP (against common believe I am not forced to stay docked up or hug a titan. I am allowed to do whatever I want. Hence why you saw me in Tama, solo fighting the blobs), I can small gang roam, and I can herpderp blob whenever the chance arises, so I am happy. Good hunting my friend.

Kronos FW Changes

I'm surprised that this thread is still moving along. There are quite a few changes coming in just over a week. Low-sec is getting buffed a lot. The Mordus faction ships will be 99% low sec. There are warp speed module drops and lesser versions of pirate implants that will be low sec only. Wormholes will be found in low sec quite a bit more. Clone soldier tags are already a thing.

All of these I optimistically view as 'competition' for the current farmer hordes' attention. Will it be? Noone knows and anyone who claims to should be laughed at. But farmers typically follow the path of least resistance. Get on Sissi and try the changes listed. You can do novices in frigates. Do smalls in them? It's possible but it's an exercise in frustration and it almost doubles the time needed to complete the plex. You need 3x to 4x the DPS of the listed tanks on the rats in order to blow through them in a timely manner. As for the theory crafting of 'sitting at 29km off the button and moving out and cloaking?' Give it a rest. The smalls have five rats. The smalls have 7. The mediums 7-8. These things are spawning every two minutes. Your ass is not getting at 29km of bubble range for the vast majority of the timer.

We all wanted timer rollbacks or some version thereof. This is almost as good - at least for the defender. Every two minutes you spend deplexing you give the farmer an extra rat and at least three minutes needed to recover the lost ground. (Peeps with 150 DPS frigates found that small plexes were taking 25 minutes - an increase in plex time by 66%.) As I said above, predicting the meta game is silly. But I am HOPING that people will migrate over to the FW missions instead of plexing. Or just go do other things that are becoming available.

They cut the outgoing DPS of the rats by 20-40%. The tanks are significant though. They also spawn one at a time only in case I didn't make that clear.

People seem to overrate those changes a lot. Most farmers already stick with capping defensive outposts because at higher tiers there's less and less backwater enemy systems to be at, and for offensive ones people will simply keep their main parked to clear some npcs (as most already do). Afk farming is done with warp stabilizers, not cloaks.

A bunch of npc rats only hinders people who are actually fightning. I have not tested it, but wouldn't a destroyer with 3-4 stabs be able to clear those rats regardless?

System still looks pretty flawed to me. The only thing I find interesting is how people are encouraged to bring larger ships into larger outposts, but that's it.

Nah, smart people keep the game windowed or alt tabbed while watching netflix or something, and simply press the warp button when they hear their ship taking damage. CLoaks were mostly a bot tool (those that spam dscan and autocloak when something is nearby).

Having killed all three, I've come to respect the elegance and simplicity of the dorks that don't even bother to fit stabs (or anything else).