Science & Industry

I don't see hisec as becoming less profitable so much as I see everyone staying crammed into a few NPC stations near major trade hubs as being less profitable. When you consider that a flood of new hisec POSes is likely going up soon, there should be plenty of industrial capacity in hisec to offset the increased NPC station prices.

Also, +1 for stealth advertising your losec "rental" services. Well played.

I am very much considering moving my operation to nullsec. However, I can't justify doing it on my own so I need a few buddies that I can trust.

Hopefully, the opening up of hisec to more POSes will help alleviate even that issue. More people doing research at POSes = fewer people doing it at NPC stations.

I think the big factor will be how many otherwise losec-averse folks will train the new Prospect CovOps mining frigate and head off in search of more profitable belts. Even if that number is high, I doubt that production and research will necessarily follow, at least not until all the new hisec moons are claimed.


Also, apologies if it seemed like I was giving you crap or calling you out re: my "well played" comment. As a former losec resident myself, I was just giving props where I saw props due. o7

Oh no need to apologize. I didn't take it in any sort of negative manner!

I know I'm even looking forward to the cov ops mining frig, even if I intend to use it for baiting. I would like to see a general shift of people from highsec to lowsec as I think that prompts more player to player interaction both competitive and otherwise.

I'm really not sure why people think the hi-sec is so nerfed ... I make plenty of ISK operating out of hi-sec, you just got to know what to manufacture, mine, sell, trade etc etc.

Since hearing the changes, I decided to rebuild a corp to go back out to null.

1. CCP increases yields on ores. The more valuable the ore the more that flat percentage yield increase affects it's mineral value.
2. CCP nerfing refines but gives null sec outposts advantages. Null sec keeps more of the new yield boosts.
3. Rorqual boosts are far better than Orcas so more of this more valuable ore is mined per hour.
4. Rorqual \ POS moduals can be used to instantly compress making working in remote systems easier. Away form potential PvP.
5. Low end mineral changes to ABC ores make them more valuable but also increase stockpiles of those minerals.
6. Ship and ammo production is easier due to boost in mineral yield, refine buff, and additions of low end minerals to ABC ores.
7. Margins on ship and ammo is better in null sec than in empire.
8. Corps in null sec can build without restrictions, to include capitals.
9. POS are cheaper to maintain through system ownership with increased yields in Ice Mining, and Planetary Interaction.
10. Does not include PvE and PvP benefits.

I'll take a clokie camper to an empire ganker any day of the week. Bring on the Covetors, EC-300's, Falcon\Blackbird, or even the Ventures for the LOLs.

Corps not willing to grow with it's members and help broaden their horizons are doomed to inactivity and stagnation. Recruiting to deal with turnover is a poor remedy.

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HCI is looking for miners interested in daily mining events, Orca boosts, and an interest in a future in null sec.

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I think that pos manufacturing will get hit with the same price increases, minus the 2% discount to cover fuel costs. So manufacturers can be forced to move their towers far away from Jita to get the most profit.
This should be really good for Red Frog.

I also expect the market to get flooded with ultra cheap BPC's of great quality after the expansion.
My plan is to mass manufacture without even owning a single BPO :)

So maybe we'll see public BPO research slots in low demand instead of high.

Why is it has always to be sell back at market hubs ? you can always haul your goods to the entry hisec systems to nullsec or lowsec active systems using JF. I'm sure they won't mind buying if you are selling at fair prices but not ridiculously high prices that make them import from nearest market hub.