Ships & Modules

Weird - now all of a sudden the fail fit you posted isnt your "regular fit". Thats a good thing. And, well we werent talking about your "regular fit" were we. We were talking about the gank fit you posted. I correctly pointed out that it wouldnt be fit for much more than blobbing in null and that is 100% true. And as you so thoughtfully point out your "regular fit" runs an AAR and a resist mod... Hmmm - maybe to give it more tank?

As to other frigates not being able to pull range etc and the videos and all that... Anyone can put together a highlight reel of them making their best kills. You do have an impressive KB but there is so much that isnt quantified in a video or even on a KB that those things in and of themselves do not mean that your advice is solid. Maybe you fly linked with drugs - maybe you have intel on the targets you take on - there are lots of maybes and what ifs but even that doesnt matter. Posting a fail fit is posting a fail fit. Citing your good KB doesnt make it any less of a fail fit. It just means that you probably dont personally use it much.

The bottom line is that I called out your fit for failing where it does fail. It isnt a good fit and it isnt especially useful even for the role you describe as there are other ships that do it better. Also, when looking at your KB you fly lots of other types of ships so I am guessing you realize this. Aside from you having your ego bruised when someone calls you out on a fit I dont even know why you are defending it because everything I said still stands as true.

There are plenty fits that could tank your damage long enough to pull range and mitigate the DPS on the fit you posted. You and the null bears can troll me as much as you want but it doesnt make what I said about your fit wrong. Your fit does lack tank, does lack ability to handle neuts and lacks the ability to apply DPS and tank enough to win in a prolonged engagement where your opponent pulls range. Sure "IF" some magical situation happens where your Enyo is perfectly fit for the fight you will win. But, the OP was not asking for that and I dont see how posting your fit does anything to contribute to helping him fit better aside from showing the high end potential of a gank Enyo. Said Enyo isnt useful aside from being part of a larger fleet - blob or otherwise - and that is also 100% true. If you had flown the gank fit you posted in a lot of the fights you show on your highlight reel you would have lost most if not all of them. That is also 100% true.

I dont have to research anything - dont have to look at your KBs or videos to know and to correctly comment about the inadequacies and limitations of the gank fit you posted. Now, had you posted your "regular fit" I wouldnt have said anything at all because THAT is a nice fit. Now, troll away...

Confirming that a ship with a 5km falloff will never need to go anywhere faster than 800m/s.

AB / MWD depends highly on the situation and the targets you are trying to destroy. Different strategy is good for different situations.

Plus, in my experience, very few people will enter a FW plex when they know you are inside sitting at zero in an Enyo. Its simply not a fight most people will choose to take. I love AB frigate fits for FW, but the Enyo will rarely get the opportunity to use an AB fit in its most ideal situation.

Cool concept, but I think you're doing it wrong, son!

You either need to be able to control range or deal damage all the way to the edge of scram range.

Dang, you don't even have a Damage Control on your Enyo? Epic fail

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works great why is it a fail if it can take down a stabber and then take on another stabber then i think its good enough, its won enough fights to not justify needing one, mostly fleet fights but hey still fun solo, just change out ammo if you need range?

As an act of diplomacy between AB and MWD supporters, I'll say: yes, you can fit both. And suddenly, everyone is harpy. Well uhm, happy.

I used to fly this with decent success many moons ago:



I know there's a dual prop neutron fit somewhere. Damage application is not much of an issue thanks to the tracking bonus (and superior ion tracking vs neutron)

OK first I will post this...
Dub Steps KB: http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=620807

Now even assuming that isnt your main and I hope to god its not - your KB still sucks so I dont think you have room to talk. You fight roughly one month a year in that ship/with that toon??? Now I know that makes you an expert. But, since you brought it up and can obviously use some pointers...

Look at it again and this time think... because that Breacher will kill most Enyos 1v1 in a FW low sec setting which is where it is intended to be used. While it looks odd there is genius behind this fit. I will start by saying that although I wish I could - i cant claim credit for the fit since it isnt originally mine. But, after flying it and getting many kills to its credit here is why it is viable... And here is why it will kill most Enyos in low sec.

It is normally fit with T2 Rocket Launchers and with them it can apply 140+ DPS and it sports full tackle. Non linked with a set of shield implants drugs and Tactical Shield Manipulation Lvl 5 it will tank initial DPS while it tackles you and pulls range - then it will kite you at the edge of scram range while it kills you. Since it is rocket fit that Breacher doesnt lose DPS at range like your Enyo will when it is orbited near blaster falloff.

With that cap set up (lows and rigs) it is a Med Shield Boosted perma repping frigate. THAT is why the fit is good sir nooblet. With its rapid cap recharge it is basically cap stable (if you pulse the AB once in a while during orbiting). It needs no cap booster to feed its Med Shield Booster so there are no booster charges to depend on and since it doesnt use an Ancillary Booster there are no magazines to run out of charges. It basically reps as long as it is alive. Its weakenesses are that it is somewhat, but not always, vulnerable to neuts although a NOS wont make enough difference to throw it off. Also it is a scram range brawler so it is not meant to fight long range MWD kiters like Tristans etc. It is one of many Breacher fits I fly, depending on the circumstances. It has amazing tanking capabilites (37.5% boost bonus at Minmatar Frigate 5) coupled with good speed, small sig radius, range dictation (full tackle) and enough DPS to make it nasty.

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And the above is exactly why EFT warriors dont win against pilots that actually have experience... This is how it goes for them - What? I must be glitched, but! but! but! EFT said this fit was amazing!!! why didnt I win????

EFT is not a real indicator or how a ship performs under the variables of actual combat. So, your EFT stats assume many constants that dont stay constant during a live engagement and they are also not factoring in a few of the things that I mentioned in my explanation of this fit (even if you set skills at lvl5).

Number 1 - shield implants and drugs - you fly it with both as I said in my post - this makes the shield boost well in excess of 80 DPS.

Secondly I said that it is normally fit with T2 launchers and rockets - DPS is 140+ plug it into EFT fool

Third - you dont need to perma tank your opponents peak DPS to win a fight. You need to be able to survive the initial onslaught while you get range. How much ACTUAL (pull your head out of EFT and think about it) DPS you take in a fight depends on your opponents skills, the ammo type they choose, the range you fly at etc etc. So, if you take say 250-300 ACTUAL DPS for a few seconds in the beginning of a fight as you pull range you quickly rep that back. Also, Tactical Shiled Manipulation 5 means your opponents volley doesnt penetrate your sheilds even if they bottom you out between rep cycles in the beginning. Now you are at range where your opponents DPS drops drastically so perma tanking is fine.

Nowhere in my explanation did I say that you would use this fit to tackle an opponent and orbit them at their optimal for the duration of the fight.

Fourth - For the EFT noob warrior who thinks they can plug in all level 5 skills - you also probably dont understand how shield skills work. The shield resist skills do not do anything for you unless you are using shield amplifiers. So the main shield skill that helps here (as mentioned in my last post and above) is Tactical Shield Manipulation. Lets just say that it means you dont take armor or structure damage (if armor is gone) when an incoming volley bottoms your shields out in between rep cycles. Bottom line (as I stated in my post) is that you need this skill to 5 ALONG with the implants and the drugs and the frigate performs as stated.

Fifth - overload your shield booster during the beginning of the fight when you are under greater DPS...

Sixth - neuts were acknowledged as a weakness - also neuts DONT mean certain death if you know how to fly/cycle your mods properly - I have won fights with this exact fit while neuted. Neuts kill your Enyo too ;)

Seventh - Enyos still suck