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Solar Roadways

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nate333
BREAKING-POINT
#1 - 2014-05-23 21:39:39 UTC
this sounds like a great project that could really help in our daily lives. what do you think? https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/solar-roadways#home
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#2 - 2014-05-24 00:14:13 UTC
I think I think that there would be a lot of blinded birds Sad
Need more "greenhouses gasses" to heat up the world and cause food production increase when the Earth goes through the warmer cycles as it naturally does.
And 3. yep green energy is big business. Good way to make millions of bucks, even if not really going anywhere. I do like small personal solar plants though, I have some solar equipment, but this scale I think may have various negatives to it.

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Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-05-24 00:30:07 UTC
Neat, but niche item.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#4 - 2014-05-24 00:32:38 UTC
that is such an unbelievably obvious and ingenious idea....my ******* god why hasn't that occurred to me sooner.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-05-24 00:37:50 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
that is such an unbelievably obvious and ingenious idea....my ******* god why hasn't that occurred to me sooner.

Some old info I heard god knows where said that in US 1 mile of road cost 1 million USD. This shite will make it 2 mil USD per 1 mile. It aint going to happen :)

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Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#6 - 2014-05-24 00:42:04 UTC
I liked the idea when I saw it but I think it would probably be cost prohibitive and I have my doubts about how durable those roadways would be under the repeated load of tractor trailers. Load testing in a lab is one thing, real world conditions most likely another.

I also can't wrap my mind around what it would be like to drive on those while it's raining. My eyes and the data disagree. Lol

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 

Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-05-24 00:47:05 UTC
Kijo Rikki wrote:
I liked the idea when I saw it but I think it would probably be cost prohibitive and I have my doubts about how durable those roadways would be under the repeated load of tractor trailers. Load testing in a lab is one thing, real world conditions most likely another.

I also can't wrap my mind around what it would be like to drive on those while it's raining. My eyes and the data disagree. Lol

Don't forget that the panels loose efficiency, they will need to be replaced something like 15-20 years later.

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Nova Serine
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-05-24 01:48:49 UTC
I LOVE progressive science, especially that which will pull our sorry asses out of the stone age and into the 22nd century, and this is one of the best ideas I've ever heard. Two caveats though: how safe are these for bicycles, considering the giant LEGO-esque bumps on the surface of the panels? And two: they need to make absolutely sure these things are hack proof, because as soon as some wise-ass figures out how to reprogram the lights for their own amusement, there could be blood.

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nate333
BREAKING-POINT
#9 - 2014-05-24 06:50:55 UTC
Interesting opinions, I do love the idea. there are so many things that do cost more then what we currently use. Only I think it is worth it to spend more money to get more return from it then from something cheap that does not have as great return.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-05-24 08:51:33 UTC
I'm on the middle ground here.

It is an interesting concept, and that glass type is quite durable and resistant. The LED-based signalling is also a plus, and the modularization is also good. It is also a bit more "green" in terms on you don't need to use tar.

I do agree tho, it requires more testing, specially on the energy harvesting and resistance bits. Solar panels have come a long way, but still require a bit more evolution.


My take on this? Needs more testing and R&D. Seems they have the basic structure down to a pat. And they already built a parking lot with this tech. Afterwards they should getting approval to build a tiny strech of road to see how it fairs against daily usage.

As I said, interesting concept. But still needs more R&D.

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Crompton Aberforth
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-05-24 13:23:40 UTC
This totally legit newspaper blows the lid off this idea. Don't do it people! We're all going to die!

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Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#12 - 2014-05-24 13:31:24 UTC
Crompton Aberforth wrote:
This totally legit newspaper blows the lid off this idea. Don't do it people! We're all going to die!


Shocked

Hahaha.....

Lol



Also this means all plant life is draining the sun of its energy. Guess its time to finally cut down all the trees. Big smile
Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-05-24 13:32:24 UTC
The concept sounds amazing. But mechanics i have worries about.

Theres a similar idea being floated at the moment in Tokyo. To build covered walkways that are roofed with solar cells over the pavement and across the first lane of the big roads so people waiting for taxis wont get wet.

The cost is something astronomical and an engineering professor at Todai pointed out that it would only generate only about 4-5% of the energy Tokyo needs in a year. Still, 4-5% isnt to be sneezed at and the concept ideas looked so damn cool.

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-05-24 14:06:11 UTC
Graygor wrote:
The concept sounds amazing. But mechanics i have worries about.

Theres a similar idea being floated at the moment in Tokyo. To build covered walkways that are roofed with solar cells over the pavement and across the first lane of the big roads so people waiting for taxis wont get wet.

The cost is something astronomical and an engineering professor at Todai pointed out that it would only generate only about 4-5% of the energy Tokyo needs in a year. Still, 4-5% isnt to be sneezed at and the concept ideas looked so damn cool.



going to be quite honest here as a petrolhead: anything that reduces the usage of salt on the roads is a plus to me.

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-05-24 15:07:23 UTC
They dont salt the roads bar the motorways here in Japan.

They just use winter tires in the north.

In feb when we had crazy snow all the cars were moving around like they were on a pinball table. Made me even more glad that i take the train to work.

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RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-05-24 15:31:40 UTC
City taxes will be on the rise.
nate333
BREAKING-POINT
#17 - 2014-05-24 17:04:47 UTC
RAIN Arthie wrote:
City taxes will be on the rise.

I would pay higher taxes that would benefit us like this. I don't like paying taxes on useless crap that seems to go on most of the time.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-05-24 21:02:43 UTC
Graygor wrote:
They dont salt the roads bar the motorways here in Japan.

They just use winter tires in the north.

In feb when we had crazy snow all the cars were moving around like they were on a pinball table. Made me even more glad that i take the train to work.

maybe not there, but in Europe, salt and ash is usually used. Think UK uses it on the roads.

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#19 - 2014-05-24 22:34:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
nate333 wrote:
RAIN Arthie wrote:
City taxes will be on the rise.

I would pay higher taxes that would benefit us like this. I don't like paying taxes on useless crap that seems to go on most of the time.
Oh I must agree! Why pay for it myself when I can force others to pay for it. So I become a politician/lawmaker, invest my monies into the company, start contracting this company with taxes to churn out roads etc while I get filthy rich regardless if the tech actually works or is viable for long term usage. Invest in batteries manufacturing, battery recycling research, specialized disposal companies and their landfills, maintenance projects, the monies to be made off taxes could be astonishing. Rich!

You know it's always a bad idea if it takes taxes to do it rather than a company just selling it's goods to people because they have a good product. People making driveways with it? Sounds good. Parking lots, sure thing. Al Gore making another billion or two? meh.
I mean I see no problem with private investments. If such a thing is good, it would in itself make money and self-sustain. It should cost tax payers $0. It should be good enough to sell off excessive power onto the power grid. It's shouldn't be yet another bridge to nowhere project.

Solar power is one of my top five preferred power sources (cold fusion #1 if they crack the mystery). But like Gray said, it still has it's drawbacks, especially with it's price. It also has environmental problems, as far as with solar farms as has been reported. Then you have the fields it generates, which I'm not quite convinced is healthy for biological life forms. The tech really needs to be made more efficient, which slowly it has been. And if it gets to the point of being safe and efficient, I think building it into roads may become an obsolete idea. Even in the transition to being a good tech, not so easy to just continually upgrade all the city streets when the 3yo tech is outdated by the new tech. Tech should be as such that we don't even notice it in our lives, just in the background serving our needs.

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mr ed thehouseofed
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-05-25 02:48:15 UTC
imho the heat radiating of solar panels is a site to behold. i've visited a few solar farms in the past and the were quite large you really notice the temp go up a few degree's when your standing in the middle of them . too many of these large scale ones would proberly heat this planet up a tad Straight

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