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EVE is one of PC Gamer's best ever games

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Puffy Twolips
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2014-05-23 13:13:59 UTC
Karen Avioras wrote:
EVE will always beat off other games Smile


yeah but they charge $5, and don't use lube.
Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#22 - 2014-05-23 13:20:11 UTC
I would find this interesting if PC gamer hadn't wasted away to the point that it has less subscribers than a mildly successful part time YouTuber.

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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#23 - 2014-05-23 13:22:34 UTC
I think it sucks they tell people things like this. Because all it will do is bring in more people that want it to be just like the game they left behind.

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Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-05-23 13:24:35 UTC
Orion Hellscream Chanlin wrote:


This beat off other notable MMOs such as (apologies for mentioning) World Of Warcraft, Guild Wars 2 and even Final Fantasy XIV.


I don't think you know how to use "and even". Normally you put the one LEAST likely to meet that condition, and you put the one MOST likely.

Should have been "Final Fantasy XIV, Guild wars 2, and EVEN World of Warcraft.

Oh, and also, stop using dropbox.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#25 - 2014-05-23 13:27:38 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Orion Hellscream Chanlin wrote:


This beat off other notable MMOs such as (apologies for mentioning) World Of Warcraft, Guild Wars 2 and even Final Fantasy XIV.


I don't think you know how to use "and even". Normally you put the one LEAST likely to meet that condition, and you put the one MOST likely.

Should have been "Final Fantasy XIV, Guild wars 2, and EVEN World of Warcraft.

Oh, and also, stop using dropbox.


He was right, regardless of people's personal opinions of WoW you can't ignore its success.

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#26 - 2014-05-23 13:31:01 UTC
Riyria Twinpeaks wrote:
OMG .. the new subs sprouting from this will result in more people demanding changes to EVE, more bittervet retaliation on the forums, more "sociopath" babbling of carebears, more "tear harvesting" of gankers and scammers, all of which will cause the death of EVE!!!1

On a more serious note: I'm surprised, but it's nice to see the game featured in such a way :)


All those new subs, sort of like that massive surge after the B-R free publicity?
Look at the PCU now. Note how the numbers are now lower than BEFORE B-R.

But I am sure there is zero correlation between the PCU and the actual subs.
Besides, we can always go to the % of votes cast and the total votes cast in the past CSM "election" to figure out...oh wait.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#27 - 2014-05-23 13:36:03 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
All those new subs, sort of like that massive surge after the B-R free publicity?
Look at the PCU now. Note how the numbers are now lower than BEFORE B-R.
Note how it is pretty much standard for the season.
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2014-05-23 13:48:06 UTC
Eve is the only MMO I've ever even tried a demo of, much less subscribed to. So the only way I can compare it to other games is to say Eve is the only one that's worth my time.
Marsha Mallow
#29 - 2014-05-23 13:48:45 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
All those new subs, sort of like that massive surge after the B-R free publicity?
Look at the PCU now. Note how the numbers are now lower than BEFORE B-R.

But I am sure there is zero correlation between the PCU and the actual subs.
Besides, we can always go to the % of votes cast and the total votes cast in the past CSM "election" to figure out...oh wait.

Logins always drop slightly just before a major expansion. There were 46k logged in last Sunday, looks pretty healthy for this time of year.

You can keep pulling numbers out to try support your arguments, doesn't make them any less hilarious. Fingers crossed the zombies wake up in Summer and start mass unsubbing in rage over the highsec apocalypse eh. You should go warn them with a sammich board in Jita P

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Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#30 - 2014-05-23 14:07:20 UTC
Brilliant, but now don't smile but make it even better! Lol

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#31 - 2014-05-23 14:27:56 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Riyria Twinpeaks wrote:
OMG .. the new subs sprouting from this will result in more people demanding changes to EVE, more bittervet retaliation on the forums, more "sociopath" babbling of carebears, more "tear harvesting" of gankers and scammers, all of which will cause the death of EVE!!!1

On a more serious note: I'm surprised, but it's nice to see the game featured in such a way :)


All those new subs, sort of like that massive surge after the B-R free publicity?
Look at the PCU now. Note how the numbers are now lower than BEFORE B-R.

But I am sure there is zero correlation between the PCU and the actual subs.
Besides, we can always go to the % of votes cast and the total votes cast in the past CSM "election" to figure out...oh wait.



I can assure you that there are many that do not vote. I am one of them and I even new about the vote. There are 1000's of pilots, probably more, that do not even interact with any part of EvE other than the client/game itself.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#32 - 2014-05-23 14:31:32 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Riyria Twinpeaks wrote:
OMG .. the new subs sprouting from this will result in more people demanding changes to EVE, more bittervet retaliation on the forums, more "sociopath" babbling of carebears, more "tear harvesting" of gankers and scammers, all of which will cause the death of EVE!!!1

On a more serious note: I'm surprised, but it's nice to see the game featured in such a way :)


All those new subs, sort of like that massive surge after the B-R free publicity?
Look at the PCU now. Note how the numbers are now lower than BEFORE B-R.

But I am sure there is zero correlation between the PCU and the actual subs.
Besides, we can always go to the % of votes cast and the total votes cast in the past CSM "election" to figure out...oh wait.



On a related note I found a video of you at Fanfest addressing CCP. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=299e9I1CRCE
Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#33 - 2014-05-23 14:38:56 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:

He was right, regardless of people's personal opinions of WoW you can't ignore its success.



I can ignore the success of WoW with the same efficacy, reasoning and legitimacy that I can ignore the success of Reality TV.

Reality TV brought nothing new to the industry, it just bastardized old concepts and ran them into the ground.

WoW brought nothing new to the industry, it just bastardized old concepts and ran them into the ground.

Financial success is not necessarily success. You can win a war but if you had to burn every village, salt every field, poison the wells, burn the bridges and effectively destroy all developments of civilization as you go, what have you really won other than the impoverishment of your children?

Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!  - Freyya

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#34 - 2014-05-23 14:42:00 UTC
Bohneik Itohn wrote:

Financial success is not necessarily success. You can win a war but if you had to burn every village, salt every field, poison the wells, burn the bridges and effectively destroy all developments of civilization as you go, what have you really won other than the impoverishment of your children?


Skulls for the skull throne.

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One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#35 - 2014-05-23 14:53:43 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:


Skulls for the skull throne.


This man.... He plays Eve...

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Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#36 - 2014-05-23 15:10:47 UTC
It amuses me to see this thread next to the "Why Isn't EVE More Popular" thread.

"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#37 - 2014-05-23 15:13:07 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Too bad EVE is dying. Blink


PC Gamer is dying

Dum Spiro Spero
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#38 - 2014-05-23 15:16:38 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Riyria Twinpeaks wrote:
OMG .. the new subs sprouting from this will result in more people demanding changes to EVE, more bittervet retaliation on the forums, more "sociopath" babbling of carebears, more "tear harvesting" of gankers and scammers, all of which will cause the death of EVE!!!1

On a more serious note: I'm surprised, but it's nice to see the game featured in such a way :)


All those new subs, sort of like that massive surge after the B-R free publicity?
Look at the PCU now. Note how the numbers are now lower than BEFORE B-R.

But I am sure there is zero correlation between the PCU and the actual subs.
Besides, we can always go to the % of votes cast and the total votes cast in the past CSM "election" to figure out...oh wait.



Stop. Just...stop. This was debunked on Snopes months ago. Let it go.

Dum Spiro Spero
Miss Masquerade
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2014-05-23 15:17:06 UTC
lol...

PC gamer knows just about as much as Jon Snow
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#40 - 2014-05-23 15:39:18 UTC
Bohneik Itohn wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:

He was right, regardless of people's personal opinions of WoW you can't ignore its success.



I can ignore the success of WoW with the same efficacy, reasoning and legitimacy that I can ignore the success of Reality TV.

Reality TV brought nothing new to the industry, it just bastardized old concepts and ran them into the ground.

WoW brought nothing new to the industry, it just bastardized old concepts and ran them into the ground.

Financial success is not necessarily success. You can win a war but if you had to burn every village, salt every field, poison the wells, burn the bridges and effectively destroy all developments of civilization as you go, what have you really won other than the impoverishment of your children?


Again personal opinion is irrelevant when every actual metric of success is something they have achieved. Whether it be sustained subs, profitability, longevity, and overall impact on the genre itself(for better or worse). They themselves can't be blamed for the popularity they created or the mass of developers that followed them in that model. Innovation is nice when it works but usually doesn't, but simplicity can be a beautiful thing, and that is what WoW did and was very successful at it.

Quote:
This man.... He plays Eve Warhammer...


FYP

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