Market Discussions

1 isk

Both offers are lower than the offers I got in game lol . I got this t2 bpo 10 jumps from my system and flew it in a shuttle back home . I learned fast that people judge you on your ships in eve . Never lost a shuttle on eve .

Well my alt has the t2 bpo and I'm not dumb enough to take it out of station .

bear in mind any offers that you get are going to be tempered by the coming changes to manufacturing. The Benefit from having a T2 BPO is dropping.

(I'm talking about the changes which Greyscale has posted. To be clear)

This, the delta between production cost for invented products and T2 BPO products is decreasing.

not to mention that that subtle little hint CCP dropped at removing T2 bpo's has caused all sorts of panic

everybody thought the hot potato had cooled down, it hasn't.

keep passing the potato, i'm going to laugh at whomever has the thing when they finally follow through

How exactly would it destroy older veterans? They've had more than enough time to capitalize on their prints and diversify their investments. As for compensation, maybe a bunch of copies or a collectors item, but don't hold your breath on getting isk, especially at the overpriced valuations they currently go for. CCP has more or less said that T2 BPOs are going to be dropping in value - that much is certain. CCP Eterne also said they have no immediate plans - they did not say anything about not removing them at all, but rather hinted at a transition.

I always love that one "There is no way ccp will...". You know how many times I've heard that right before a nerf?
An like mitch said, compensation would be unlikely and certainly not at the value T2 BPOs get sold at. Those are inflated values which are way above functional prices. CCP did make it pretty clear on that the no compensation in the industry panel too.

The biggest hurdle your going to run into selling them at the moment though is the announcement on invention. With invention getting positive ME, it's a considerable change in build costs for a lot of the bigger items, putting invented BPCs and T2 BPOs much close together. Couple that with the proposed changes to make invented BPCs have more total run time (in the form of more runs) so they have less downtime, and it gives invention quite the boost. Brining the two closer together will reduce the profit margin on T2 BPOs (about half has been suggested as a fair bet), so a BPO which too 8 years to turn a profit would then take 16 at the same price.

Because Mr. Kell wants it. His "arguments" are a redundant stockpile of s***. We successfully defeated him in this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346371&find=unread


@OP

Keep your Print until market stabilizes by the end of summer. At the moment you aint get a decent price for it as everyone who runs with herd is yelling "T2 BPO Removal"

If by "defeated" you mean "repeatedly cried about how T2 BPO owners are special snowflakes until he got bored and left", then sure.

So do you mean to say that you still don't believe they are being nerfed quite heavily as well? Have you read the invention and T2 BPO changes that are already announced? Even before their removal, the T2 BPO price will at least drop to about half.

As for their removal, it's unclear whether it will happen, sure, but ask yourself if you ant to be the one holding a T2 BPO if they do decide to scrap them. If you think they are worth that risk, then by all means invest in them. If you don't, then don't. You've undoubtedly heard both sides of it, and you've got more than enough information from CCP to make a reasonable decision.

It's quite funny that Lynx has such a gripe against anyone suggesting that BPOs are to be removed, while he claims to not be an owner. With how much he goes against it, even in the face of all the evidence that has been provided, it's clear he's trying to keep prices up. But don't believe me, don;t believe him. Read what CCP have written, listen to what they've said, and make your own decision.