Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You're flying the wrong frigates and you need to make some friends.

We have absolutely no problem fighting neutrals on gates in AFs with a couple T1 logi frigs backing us. Sentries simply don't do so much damage that certain frigs can't overcome it.

If you want to attack neutrals on gates, you need to adjust your tactics, exactly as the campers have.

It's easy to get into lowsec, but hard to go anywhere but the station. If you want more people in lowsec, offer security somewhere where they can farm some sort of resource.

I bet there would be more people in lowsec if customs offices had turrets.

I think the damage threat should be more balanced than it is. Not balanced completely, mind you. Frigates should die faster than cruisers, and so on. But frigates shouldn't just be instantly killed at the gate. And battleships should take more damage.

I had the idea a while back to make the 8 gate guns into 4 different types of turret:
1.) Two small turrets with fast tracking that can hit anything, but deals low enough damage that a well-tanked frigate can permatank it.
2.) Two medium turrets that can easily hit cruisers but frigates can evade it if they keep up a good angular velocity to both--though it's still a high risk to them and if it does hit them straight on, they won't survive long without logi no matter how well they are tanked. These two turrets alone would hit cruisers similarly--a well-tanked cruiser could permatank them.
3.) Two large turrets that cruisers can evade if they keep up high angular velocity but will hit battleships pretty hard. Only very expensive tanky battleship fits can permatank it without logi support.
4.) Two XL turrets that hit capital ships easily and battleships have to work to evade them. They have much higher DPS than current gate guns and no battleship wants to be hit by these.

The guns would have a preference for targets they can hit well but will also try to focus multiple turrets of multiple sizes on one target when it presents itself. They will split up some also just to keep the logi guessing.

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So this way, a ship that is focusing its movement on evading the guns will not be getting hit too hard, but that makes it difficult for said ship to be using short-range weapons and modules. And any ship just sitting still is going to die pretty quickly. Aside from offering more gate defense, it gives more power to the player in choosing to protect themselves from the guns vs attacking players full-force.

In my system, if a solo player ganks on a gate and the victim retaliates by webbing the ganker, that ganker may be in for a world of hurt.

And what happens if i use a target painter on your frig? Will you take more damage from these missiles then? What about if i web you?

Then make that apparent in the first post please. We all know many forum-warriors dont read between the lines on a lot of topics.

Howabout capital-sized missiles with a low damage reduction factor, so they hit all sizes equally well in proportion to their typical hit points for that size? Capital precision missiles.

heard of lag much?

I like gateguns where they are at. It is part of what makes low sec as it is. With the changes that came in to crime watch with Retribution and the limited engagement timer a frigate can bounce off and come back without further aggression. I feel that gateguns make pilots make decisions and those decisions dictate a lot of the action and reaction of low sec.

I'm against homogenization. Yes, gateguns are unfriendly to frigates. Yes, gateguns make engagements harder. Yes, gateguns favor the non outlaw pilot and cause people to play gategames. Yes it means that frigates and interceptors cannot stay in a fight and may die to take that point.

Good.

There are areas in the game without gateguns. Irritating as can be they are one of the things that define low sec.

Lowsec gate guns are quite fine as they are. Yes, a frigate will die, but it can also bounce, and unless completely fit like crap should be able to take a hit or two while warping out. Guns only hit one target at a time, so multiple frigs can actually do some decent damage. Quite often I'll sit on a gate in an untanked alpha thrasher, even that takes 4 gate gun hits to die, and that's more than enough time to warp out once the first hit lands and I know it's time to GTFO. My malediction takes at least 3 hits as well before going poof.

Or, make Gate Turrets from (0.4 to 0.1) from strong to weak. You can camp 0.4 but you need some good logistics or just camp 0.2-1 or in 00.