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Doreen Kaundur
#1 - 2014-05-22 18:31:08 UTC
This always makes me laugh:

You suggest or debate implementing a feature in EVE, and someone brings up how it "would be a waste of dev time."

Or how so called "fluff" features are a "waste of dev time."

Waste of dev time?

Just how do you define such a statement?

So if it doesn't cater to your little corner of this massive sandbox called EVE, it is a waste of dev time?

Personally I feel that anything that adds to this space sim simulation is never a waste of dev time.

Even CQ, with all it's redundant features and limited space adds to EVE's immersion.

So what is a waste of dev's time?

*Hilmar having the dev team over to paint his house on company time, is a waste of dev time.
*Showing up all stinky and hungover at work at CCP after kegger, is a waste of dev time.

Adding something nice to EVE ,however minor, is never a waste of dev time IMO.

My .02isk

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-05-22 18:34:52 UTC
Would you be happier with people saying "It's a low priority" or "There are better uses for development resources"?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-05-22 18:36:13 UTC
Or maybe "what you asked for is stupid."

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Karen Avioras
The Raging Raccoons
#4 - 2014-05-22 18:37:56 UTC
It's a waste of dev time when they have to lock redundant threads.
Paranoid Loyd
#5 - 2014-05-22 18:38:25 UTC
Yeah, most of the stuff you suggest is a waste of time.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#6 - 2014-05-22 18:41:12 UTC
This is why hiding a user's posts should also protect us from seeing threads they start.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#7 - 2014-05-22 18:41:19 UTC
Karen Avioras wrote:
It's a waste of dev time when they have to lock redundant threads.


It's probably a good thing then that ISD are all volunteers.





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There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Doreen Kaundur
#8 - 2014-05-22 18:42:11 UTC
Example:

Look at something minor like the new lens flare coming up in the next expansion.

Was there anything wrong with the old lens flare? No.
Was it broken and needed fixing? No.


Yet it took dev time to implement a new one.

Was it a waste of dev time? NO!!

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#9 - 2014-05-22 18:43:14 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
This always makes me laugh:

You suggest or debate implementing a feature in EVE, and someone brings up how it "would be a waste of dev time."

Or how so called "fluff" features are a "waste of dev time."

Waste of dev time?

Just how do you define such a statement?

So if it doesn't cater to your little corner of this massive sandbox called EVE, it is a waste of dev time?

Personally I feel that anything that adds to this space sim simulation is never a waste of dev time.

Even CQ, with all it's redundant features and limited space adds to EVE's immersion.

So what is a waste of dev's time?

*Hilmar having the dev team over to paint his house on company time, is a waste of dev time.
*Showing up all stinky and hungover at work at CCP after kegger, is a waste of dev time.

Adding something nice to EVE ,however minor, is never a waste of dev time IMO.

My .02isk


lol, this is the same kind of naive thinking that caused CCP a whole bunch of problems and led to them having to "re-focus" on certain things after a certain explosion of anger + monument shooting and bad press.

Every idea isn't a good idea, and sometimes Good ideas are actually impossible to implement, and even if you could, they are still subject to the same kinds of unintended consequences as bad ideas would be, The old saying that "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" is IMO true.

The best way to progress is through careful examination and is based on need, not "i have a brilliant idea that is totally going to work well for all the people who own the 400,000 EVE accounts and could not possibly go wrong" lol.
Karen Avioras
The Raging Raccoons
#10 - 2014-05-22 18:43:39 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
Example:

Look at something minor like the new lens flare coming up in the next expansion.

Was there anything wrong with the old lens flare? No.
Was it broken and needed fixing? No.


Yet it took dev time to implement a new one.

Was it a waste of dev time? NO!!


Who said it was a waste of dev time? Sounds like a good idea.
Doreen Kaundur
#11 - 2014-05-22 18:45:01 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
This always makes me laugh:

You suggest or debate implementing a feature in EVE, and someone brings up how it "would be a waste of dev time."

Or how so called "fluff" features are a "waste of dev time."

Waste of dev time?

Just how do you define such a statement?

So if it doesn't cater to your little corner of this massive sandbox called EVE, it is a waste of dev time?

Personally I feel that anything that adds to this space sim simulation is never a waste of dev time.

Even CQ, with all it's redundant features and limited space adds to EVE's immersion.

So what is a waste of dev's time?

*Hilmar having the dev team over to paint his house on company time, is a waste of dev time.
*Showing up all stinky and hungover at work at CCP after kegger, is a waste of dev time.

Adding something nice to EVE ,however minor, is never a waste of dev time IMO.

My .02isk


lol, this is the same kind of naive thinking that caused CCP a whole bunch of problems and led to them having to "re-focus" on certain things after a certain explosion of anger + monument shooting and bad press.

Every idea isn't a good idea, and sometimes Good ideas are actually impossible to implement, and even if you could, they are still subject to the same kinds of unintended consequences as bad ideas would be, The old saying that "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" is IMO true.

The best way to progress is through careful examination and is based on need, not "i have a brilliant idea that is totally going to work well for all the people who own the 400,000 EVE accounts and could not possibly go wrong" lol.



Actually it was CCP's idea that "greed is good" that caused their problems.
An unfinished, unpolished Incarna was icing for the cake.

A fully functioning WIS would have been welcomed.

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Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-05-22 18:48:30 UTC
Did someones idea get rejected? The forums can be mean sometimes...
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#13 - 2014-05-22 18:49:40 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:



Actually it was CCP's idea that "greed is good" that caused their problems.
An unfinished, unpolished Incarna was icing for the cake.

A fully functioning WIS would have been welcomed.


That wooshing sound you just heard was the point flying over your head.
Doreen Kaundur
#14 - 2014-05-22 18:49:52 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Did someones idea get rejected? The forums can be mean sometimes...


Actually the forums are pretty entertaining. People here are sooo serious.Big smile

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Doreen Kaundur
#15 - 2014-05-22 18:51:52 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Doreen Kaundur wrote:



Actually it was CCP's idea that "greed is good" that caused their problems.
An unfinished, unpolished Incarna was icing for the cake.

A fully functioning WIS would have been welcomed.


That wooshing sound you just heard was the point flying over your head.


I thought it was just you farting.

BTW, why are you farting over my head? What's your ass doing up there?Ugh

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-05-22 18:54:06 UTC
People like to backseat drive, backseat FC and backseat develop the game that they're backseat playing on the forums. Lol

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2014-05-22 18:54:40 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
Example:

Look at something minor like the new lens flare coming up in the next expansion.

Was there anything wrong with the old lens flare? No.
Was it broken and needed fixing? No.


Yet it took dev time to implement a new one.

Was it a waste of dev time? NO!!

Yes let's have the art team work on server load balancing algorithms instead, they'll be much more productive.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Doreen Kaundur
#18 - 2014-05-22 18:56:31 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
Example:

Look at something minor like the new lens flare coming up in the next expansion.

Was there anything wrong with the old lens flare? No.
Was it broken and needed fixing? No.


Yet it took dev time to implement a new one.

Was it a waste of dev time? NO!!

Yes let's have the art team work on server load balancing algorithms instead, they'll be much more productive.


You need an "art team" for a lens flare?

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#19 - 2014-05-22 18:57:41 UTC
Anything that is considered a "fix" for AFK cloaking or highsec ganking would indeed be considered a waste of Dev time.




Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2014-05-22 19:00:29 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
Example:

Look at something minor like the new lens flare coming up in the next expansion.

Was there anything wrong with the old lens flare? No.
Was it broken and needed fixing? No.


Yet it took dev time to implement a new one.

Was it a waste of dev time? NO!!

Yes let's have the art team work on server load balancing algorithms instead, they'll be much more productive.


You need an "art team" for a lens flare?

There's not just one lens flare.
They're not simple lens flares either.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
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